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Is it better in these re-buy tournaments to play a TAG style or play extremely loose. The problem I'm having is that I will 3x-6x raise with say AA and then I get 5 callers and they are all playing hands like Q2o or 93suited.. I guess what I am asking is how to beat these people that push all-in with any cards that have a number, letter, or a shape on them.. They all seem to get lucky and hit the flop like its going out of style.. sorry. rant over.. lol
 
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I have no clue. They are such annoying tourneys. It really, honestly just seems like a BINGO all in luck-fest to me...I rarely say that about any kind of poker but cheap unlimited rebuy tourneys are the worst!

that said...I had a moment of weakness last night and played one.

I double up with KK first hand (no brainer, min raiser then 2 callers then the button jams and I have KK in SB...easy easy easy).

So I finally realize that the guy to my direct left plays about 40% of hands, if he catches any piece of the flop will call any bet size including all in and if he loses (which is a lot) he will double rebuy instantly. dude to my left must have double rebought at least 12 times (I am not kidding!) so He was like an ATM to me...I raise with a decent hand, I flop middle pair or better, I go all in, I double up etc.

Even so....I still didn't cash. My ATM finally busted out after the rebuy period was over and after grinding a short stack forever I went out with AK vs. AJ....

grrrrrrrrr!
 
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I just had to quit playing those tourneys. Too annoying. Same thing with me. I would double up several times to get a very nice stack and then get ground down by someone playing everyhand.
 
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play to maximize EV, doesn't matter what the structure is
 
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I stopped playin those torn aments .

Maybe if i feel like playin something & i have some Ftps or fpps wateve

I'll buyin to them and have fun . I never won though

Some guys just come & go all in , when they lose rebuy and again all in

and it continues and i just have to wait and see till get shuffled to a different table , lol
 
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Got 6th one time out of 387 with 4 rebuys and 1 add on and if its 5 or 6 pot then shove with suited connecters as they go up a whole lot in value

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They are such annoying tourneys. It really, honestly just seems like a BINGO all in luck-fest to me...

exactly the way i feel! i placed 7th i believe in a 45 cent buy in on Bovada but thats it. I haven't had any luck placing on BCP yet. I always run against the guy who pushes 7 2 all in against KK and flop comes 772 haha but I am waiting until this semester of school is over before i deposit and start hitting some higher stake tourney. Good Luck to all!
 
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First off, in general, don't play rebuys unless you're prepared to rebuy at least a couple of times and also to take the add-on. Otherwise, you put yourself at a major disadvantage. You can consider making exceptions for specific tournaments when you know that there isn't much rebuying in them, but those are exceptions and you still face some disadvantage, just not as much.

Also, don't expect that the play during the rebuy period will be like it is in freezeouts. If you're not prepared to adjust accordingly, then once again, don't play them.
 
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play to maximize EV, doesn't matter what the structure is

really?

how do you maximize EV when you have no fold equity vs. half the table?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'd really like to know.

Let's say I pick up KK UTG and my stack is 1,000 and blinds are 10/20 and a fast turbo structure. Just open shove? limp? raise? what?

let's say I pick up AJ UTG with the same situation? Is that good enough to play? Should I employ the same strategy? Turn it into an all in or fold tourney?

My impression is that the rebuy period is just a luck fest with very little skill involved, then if you survive you buy the add on and play real poker after that. first half bingo, second half poker.
 
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really?

how do you maximize EV when you have no fold equity vs. half the table?

I'm not trying to be a smart ass, I'd really like to know.

Let's say I pick up KK UTG and my stack is 1,000 and blinds are 10/20 and a fast turbo structure. Just open shove? limp? raise? what?

let's say I pick up AJ UTG with the same situation? Is that good enough to play? Should I employ the same strategy? Turn it into an all in or fold tourney?

My impression is that the rebuy period is just a luck fest with very little skill involved, then if you survive you buy the add on and play real poker after that. first half bingo, second half poker.
until addon happens it is basically just like if you were playing a cash game, if you have no FE as you say value shove. You still can see hands postflop and make decisions

i think it was said earlier but basically treat the tourny as 10-15X the buyin and think of it as a low rake $11 tourny when it is a $1 one

sounds like people are complaining about variance honestly

i really dont know what you mean by real poker, you were playing poker before the addon, and continue to play real poker after the addon you guys seriously are making no sense to me

so people do spazzy things,.. adjust. Yes people can be crazy sometimes but you should like that, they are putting more chips and more buyins in to the tourny and have a disadvantage (hopefully) longterm vs you, this is a great thing!!
 
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First off, in general, don't play rebuys unless you're prepared to rebuy at least a couple of times and also to take the add-on. Otherwise, you put yourself at a major disadvantage. You can consider making exceptions for specific tournaments when you know that there isn't much rebuying in them, but those are exceptions and you still face some disadvantage, just not as much.

Also, don't expect that the play during the rebuy period will be like it is in freezeouts. If you're not prepared to adjust accordingly, then once again, don't play them.

my opinion exactly
I used to play tight and not even do the 1st rebuy(for double stack)...
TOTALLY WRONG
dont play unless you're willing to spend 10-20 on rebuys
sure its a donkfest 1st hour- thats a real rebuy poker game
point is to build a big stack (or moreso even, to get lots of chips at your table- so you have a chance to get a nice stack and hopefully move to a tighter tbl where you will have a big advantage)
you can also just late reg in the last few minutes-double buyin and addon and still be okay for when the 'real' poker begins
I have grown to like them cuz many ppl enter and do not ever rebuy/addon- free money IMO
 
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Make sure you can afford to re-buy several times, these tourneys require a lot of luck to get anywhere, if you can get to the end of the re-buy period with a decent stack things settle down after the add-on to some extent so maybe you can get chances to play some poker then. I tend to enter these just as the re-buy ends if the add-on is big enough and the push with any decent hand, sometimes works.
 
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Is it better in these re-buy tournaments to play a TAG style or play extremely loose. The problem I'm having is that I will 3x-6x raise with say AA and then I get 5 callers and they are all playing hands like Q2o or 93suited.. I guess what I am asking is how to beat these people that push all-in with any cards that have a number, letter, or a shape on them.. They all seem to get lucky and hit the flop like its going out of style.. sorry. rant over.. lol

The trick here is to get smart with playing the flop. Aggressive-fish will look at any two cards and go, sure, why not. They see a King and think: that's a high card! Lez-go. Play tight and do the following.

Know that in the beginning, someone is going to be looking for an early tournament all-in. Play very conservatively pre-flop until that person busts (won't be long). Likewise, a lot of people expect someone to do that. If you happen to pop AA or KK early on, go all in. Most people will fold but someone will call you and double you up early.

Know that there will be a couple of players that love to see the river. They assume anyone's hand is best until then (technically they're right, but statistically they're wrong). They don't really get "pot control" though, so if you want to see a river, check to it. If you have a hand likely to win, build that pot! But understand that bluffing these guys is a HUGE mistake.

Play loose on the river. This is where they realize that they don't have the hand they want. If you have something with any sort of show down value, balls to the wall. Just be wary of a check raise on the river. Fish don't know how to do that (even though its poker 101). It's pretty much never a bluff. Even re-raises are pretty suspect. But most of the time any substantial bet on the river will induce a fold.

The people left will inevitably be you and the tight players. Usually those tight players are fairly passive. So beat em up. At the end of the day, it'll be you and the other guy who knows half a thing about poker going heads up.
 
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I play alot of these tourneys on carbon, and seem to have the most success with just playing a TAG style, THEY NEVER FOLD HAHA so i try not to bluff in these tourneys as little as possible.
 
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When the table is loose, you will want to play tight. You also will want to play very aggressive with big hands during the rebuy period. Don't be afraid of getting the money in on a calling station. It can often be very profitable to stick in your stack against a ATM on top pair top kicker.
 
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