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is it correct to limp atc from sb with the intention to hit trips or two pair? assuming none raised the pot and its multiway , is it worth to spend half blind to try your luck?
 
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Me personally, it depends on the player sitting beside you. And what kind of player they are. For instance a tight player you should raise. If he folds, you scrape the pot. If he RE raises, you fold. Also the chips stacks may come into play as well. So you have to watch out for that as well. I'm not a big fan of limping in. You don't really gather any information like that.
 
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Winning the blinds preflop is way better than trying your luck with a limp. Raise or fold, but you should hardly ever limp.
 
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I think if the others in the hand are loose players or have been pushing people off pots i would limp in and try and suck out. If they are playing tight then you should raise to keep one of them from hitting an slightly higher over pair.
 
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always limp from the sb if it goes multiway. People say dont because u have bad implied odds ... even though thats true, its still worth it for a limp. What if u have 106 and then flopp comes 10 10 6 and the other player got K10?
 
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"It depends"

In some spots I will raise every time, atc's. At other times I'm folding 95% of the time.
 
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I will occasionally limp from the SB just to try to get heads up with the BB. I usually do it when I have a trash hand. If he checks, I usually make a continuation bet, which wins the pot the majority of the time. If he shows any life, I figure I'm beat.

Just remember that the SB is going to be you least profitable position over time. Try not to get too crazy when you're going to be playing uphill.
 
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i like limping from sb when theres 3+ others with pretty much atc...gotta be carefull if you flop bottom 2 tho
 
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always limp from the sb if it goes multiway. People say dont because u have bad implied odds ... even though thats true, its still worth it for a limp. What if u have 106 and then flopp comes 10 10 6 and the other player got K10?

Well a lot of my reasoning for limping is the pot odds preflop in a multiway pot. If 5 people have limped and one in the big blind with blinds at 10/20, that's 130 chips in the pot. It would only cost 10 chips to win 140. I'd call every time even though I'd be risking the big blind raising or whatever. It's simple math to call there with any hand IMO.
 
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I will always limp in the sb in a multiway pot 4+ otherwise its a fold or raise..
 
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I will always limp in the sb in a multiway pot 4+ otherwise its a fold or raise..

I agree with this advice. The BB won't re-raise if multiple players are in the pot unless the BB has something really strong in which you would want to fold any way. I would raise more times than I would fold.
 
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If it's marginal, I'd flick it in if you have the chips to do so. I am NOT doing this w/ the likes of T4o, 83o, or 72 or pretty much anything that's at the bottom of the barrel. I need at least 75%.
 
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I personally raise the bb if I have a strong hand, but I am thinking now to limp in if I get cards like pocket 2s.3s,4s and so on and pay to see the flop then if I flop a set I will check raise
 
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I personally raise the bb if I have a strong hand, but I am thinking now to limp in if I get cards like pocket 2s.3s,4s and so on and pay to see the flop then if I flop a set I will check raise


that will be so predictable especially against good players...they will see you coming a mile away with the limp pre, check/raise post...just raise all you hands then you can have any hand...dont change on the strength of your hand....if you want to play freerolls or whatever then you might get away with it, but if you want to be a wsop champion then that sort of play won't cut it
 
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Me personally, it depends on the player sitting beside you. And what kind of player they are. For instance a tight player you should raise. If he folds, you scrape the pot. If he RE raises, you fold. Also the chips stacks may come into play as well. So you have to watch out for that as well. I'm not a big fan of limping in. You don't really gather any information like that.

There are obvious pros and cons to limping from the SB. In a pot where it's been folded around to you, the BB may see a limp as a sign of weakness and come back over the top of you. In the case of a multiway pot, your chances of winning the pot decrease with each player that enters the pot.

Well a lot of my reasoning for limping is the pot odds preflop in a multiway pot. If 5 people have limped and one in the big blind with blinds at 10/20, that's 130 chips in the pot. It would only cost 10 chips to win 140. I'd call every time even though I'd be risking the big blind raising or whatever. It's simple math to call there with any hand IMO.

On the other hand, as atlantafalcons0 points out, with each limper that comes into the pot, your pot odds increase which may justify a call with ATC. Looked at simply, it's a small risk compared to the potential reward especially when implied odds are taken into account.

I personally prefer not to invest a single chip into a weak hand. I've had people complain that I don't complete my small blind often enough. Oh well. Each chip I save now is that much more someone is going to have to pay off when I eventually double up. At the same time, because I already have chips invested in the pot, I do tend to use my BB and SB as an excuse to play hands that I might not normally get involved with. Because I don't show a willingness to play ATC from the SB or an interest trying to steal from the SB, when I do decide to play from the SB it's almost as if my limp carries the force of a raise and I am often given credit for a much stronger hand than I am actually holding, giving me an advantage in post-flop play.
 
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I usually dont get too crazy from the sb unless im playing against tight players that will fold a lot of hands preflop or on the flop. Usually i'll limp or fold but I think raising or folding is the better option.
 
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Being unpredictable is one of your strongest tools, Dont get stuck in a single action from each positon, this is to easy to read from the better players.
 
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