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I play on carbon, and I play the 2 dollar buy in hyper turbos with six players. I'm playing great. I'm not making bad decisions... I'm making solid folds, and solid calls. My money has been going in good a large percentage of the time. About 80% of the time I've had an equity advantage over my opposition. Yet I'm losing every... And I do mean every all in, with but a few exceptions. I left myself about 50BI for this level thinking the variance couldn't actually be as great as it is. But over the last few days I have lost 30BI. Is this standard hyped turbo variance? Should I drop down to 1 dollar buy ins? Because this really does suck and I'm not exactly sure what to do. The variance is decimating my roll
 
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I feel your pain. I've also been running bad lately (for over a month) and there is nothing you can do about it. Just keep getting it in good and hope for the best.
If you have lost a large portion of your bankroll, dropping down is always a good option.

GL
 
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hypers are very high variance ....maybe you should try to beat turos first before moving to hypers if you are already down
 
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Yeah drop down would be good IMO, hypers are extemely high varience and if planning to grind them exclusively I'd certainly want at least 100bi. 50 bi is the standard recomendation for regular sng's I do believe.

Gl on the drop down and grind it back up.
 
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I've tried the hypers and they are rly high on variance. You should drop in stake or play turbos IMO. I went back to turbos after some hyper losses and I'm back to my rungood spot :)
GL in the future man!
 
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I'm getting frustrated by fish calling my all ins with junk, today alone, aces called with 45o, ak with q3s, jacks called with 2's, kj called with 23s, and they all lost, can't remember the last time I won an all in with the underdog hand, would be weeks.

Cannot express how frustrated I am about this right at the moment, it's not even losing with the cards, what frustrates me most is bankroll losses when decisions are sound.
 
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I'm getting frustrated by fish calling my all ins with junk, today alone, aces called with 45o, ak with q3s, jacks called with 2's, kj called with 23s, and they all lost, can't remember the last time I won an all in with the underdog hand, would be weeks.

Cannot express how frustrated I am about this right at the moment, it's not even losing with the cards, what frustrates me most is bankroll losses when decisions are sound.
This is just part of the game, man! One of my last runbad streaks I run into AA like 5 tourneys in a row and didn't won once! Sometimes geeting all-in good is not enough. It is frustrating, but it is what it is and thats that! LoL :hmmmm:
 
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If you are playing hypers you have to expect to lose a lot of the time to the worst hand. Since you are always short when u lose a pot your out so u notice when u lose to the worst of it more.
Drop down in buy in and if necessary stop playing hypers.
 
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What type of person do you think the word hyper appeals to? Is it the calm considered and logical individual or the wreckless knee jerk caution to the wind type?

Some logical people will reason it's fertile ground full of reckless fish but the more people your hand is up against the less chance you have of winning so the more inclined they are to go all in the less luck you will seem to be having. I just shoved on 888 freeroll when I flopped a set of sevens. Someone called with 3 diamonds and turn and river gave the flush. Thjats the nature of freerolls.

I lost about £150 playing $7.20 DYM's on 888. This was after a great run where I was winning about 6 out of 7 games. I upped stake. I'm going to have another go at DYM's but will be strict about maintaining a BI level and dropping down a gear when I lose. I'm also going to build the bankroll from freerolls so I respect it a bit more (I'm quite good at spunking tournament winnings).
 
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I play on carbon, and I play the 2 dollar buy in hyper turbos with six players. I'm playing great. I'm not making bad decisions... I'm making solid folds, and solid calls. My money has been going in good a large percentage of the time. About 80% of the time I've had an equity advantage over my opposition. Yet I'm losing every... And I do mean every all in, with but a few exceptions. I left myself about 50BI for this level thinking the variance couldn't actually be as great as it is. But over the last few days I have lost 30BI. Is this standard hyped turbo variance? Should I drop down to 1 dollar buy ins? Because this really does suck and I'm not exactly sure what to do. The variance is decimating my roll

Post hands. You might find your not making as good calls/folds as you think. Not saying you aren't but you would be surprised at what you might think is good/bad. The reason I think you aren't playing optimal is because a good solid winning player will not get their chips in good 80% of the time. In these games you should be getting your chips in bad a lot when stacks get really shallow because of the small Ev shoving spots you should take. I mean, I have a feeling you're playing your card hand values and not taking all the +Ev spots. For example, shoving any two cards in spots will be more profitable than folding. Also light calls you need to make you will be folding which certainly is going to hurt your win rate. Given these games are small edges you need to maximise all +Ev spots.

Also even for micro games you need 100+ buy ins. Swings are huge, even the very best players will have 100 buy ins quite often.
 
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Today's suck out list, kings lost to a4, ak lost to aj, I'm not gonna mention the times I've shoved and been dominated... Still haven't won as the underdog...

I was playing $7 sitngos, but dropped to $3.50, and now $1.50.

I should probably play the poker stars 0.25 Mtt 's... I think soon I will have to...
 
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I generally play standard speed sng btw
 
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Ohh, one hand today I shoved with ak, and you guessed it, run into aa
 
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Hypers would seem to be your problem. We need some math wiz to figure out what the actual increase in variance should be expected. We all know intrinsically that they are higher variance, but not how much higher. Not even a good guess really.

If you need a fast game, try the speed ring games. Rush, Zoom or Zone at Bovada. Much less variance in those. They are not tourney's, but satisfy the 'need'.
 
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Today's suck out list, kings lost to a4, ak lost to aj, I'm not gonna mention the times I've shoved and been dominated... Still haven't won as the underdog...

I was playing $7 sitngos, but dropped to $3.50, and now $1.50.

I should probably play the poker stars 0.25 Mtt 's... I think soon I will have to...
I generally play standard speed sng btw

Ohh, one hand today I shoved with ak, and you guessed it, run into aa

Just an FYI Salmon, this would be post spamming lol. Would be much better off to just edit the previous one's as opposed to three posts within five minutes span on the thread. I'll throw a quick screenie in showing just in case you don't see the edit button, but within i believe it is 30 minutes of posting you can edit the post, just indicate the addition at the bottom as you will see in this when i edit it.

Just thought would point this out, in case your posts were not intentionally to + a post count :D.

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I have had nothing but HORROR stories on Carbon.

I actually banned my account and deleted there software. I know how you feel.

I had about 25-30 hands at 80%+ favorite and I lost all of them.

Really hate Carbon...

Sorry for the rant..

But good runs and bad runs come and go.
 
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Carbon poker has 10-11 cent games and $1 hyper turbos. I played the 10 cent ones sometimes. I figured the games would be so crazy 11 cents was enough for me.
 
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Hyper = Bingo, play normal time controls.
 
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Stefanicov;[/B]2222428]If you are playing hypers you have to expect to lose a lot of the time to the worst hand. Since you are always short when u lose a pot your out so u notice when u lose to the worst of it more.
Drop down in buy in and if necessary stop playing hypers.

Name from the past...hope he is back and gets more active.
 
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hyper's are awful, no skill just luck and an adrenalin rush
 
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hyper's are awful, no skill just luck and an adrenalin rush
This ^ is why they are profitable for the players who know what they're doing. Seriously there are pros who are up a ton from playing hypers.
 
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This ^ is why they are profitable for the players who know what they're doing. Seriously there are pros who are up a ton from playing hypers.

This is absolutely true. Those of you think that hypers are for skill-less BINGO players are very wrong.

-HooDooKoo
 
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I've actually started playing cash game, I figure the variance to be alot less (without actually knowing).

The good news is I had my first underdog win since forever when my queens cracked aces
 
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I feel your pain. I went though a week or so were I could not win any hand no matter what I had. Guess that is just poker!!!!
 
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