Should I open shove AJss with 10bb?

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AJss Utg 10 bbs stack mid stages not near the money is this profitable I've ran into AK a few times and bust ?
 
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FR or 6max tourney? how many players dealt in regardless of format?

Are ante's in play?

Any huge stacks at the table? what's your position relative to the big stacks? has it been an agressive table or a passive table?

Turbo blinds or reg speed?
 
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Big 11 mid stages obv antes
 
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Ante's are never obvious, there are rooms that don't have ante's in their tournaments at any stage and it makes a difference.......pokerstars isn't the only site out there so why think we would assume you're referring to an mtt on stars.

Anyhow in FR AJ even suited UTG is widesh, but I'd likely shove in that spot or sometimes a big raise that indicates I'm committing myself and calling of any shove.............however if you get called or shoved on your flipping at best and crushed at worst so it's probably borderline depending especially in a decent structure like the big 11 depending on table dynamics it might be better to make some steal attempts with better position but can't say I wouldn't get involved there with AJ suited.
 
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I've been watching pro videos on run it once and they said it's a fold
 
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This becomes a situational answer.. it isimportant of your image at the table and others images as well... I like to play to win and be aggreissve if I can pick up blinds and antes.. that can help in the long run, but it can not be a play you do every other time you have AJ.. have to pick spots..
 
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Position and your gut feeling on the reads at the table. More then likely its a all in for me but, for the good players its prob a easy fold. lol
 
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Definitely a position okay if it's been folded multiple times before me I will take that chance
 
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It really depends on the dynamic of the table. If the table is tighter, then your best bet would be to fold and chip up by stealing/ waiting for a better spot. However if table is more aggressive then it really does depend on the antes and blinds. Eg. If the pot consists of equal or greater chips to your stack, then a shove would be optimal. Otherwise it is more than likely a fold for the average table, unless you feel the field/competition in the table has an edge over you.
 
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Theres no clear cut action for me since you have to consider many variables.

But if you weigh it, I think the safest is simply to fold.
 
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To quote my response from another thread you recently started.

Asking about a specific hand in an unknown tournament against an unknown player without providing reads, stack sizes, tournament structure, payouts, or any other information is not going to help you or anyone else learn anything as the only real answer anyone can give is "it depends".

If you want help with a specific hand post it in the hand analysis forum with as much information you can possibly give so people can get a feel for what was happening at the time of the hand and can give specific advice.

Looking at the answers given so far, they pretty much all say "it depends".

I've been watching pro videos on run it once and they said it's a fold

Just because someone in a video folded in a similar spot doesn't mean you should to. There are many variables that come into play like stack sizes, tournament structure, payouts etc.
 
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It doesn't depend, not on antes not on position and probably not due to payout either but I could understand somone folding this in EP to move up a spot of the money were right. But with 10bb you could blind out before you get a better hand to open shove with.
 
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It doesn't depend, not on antes not on position and probably not due to payout either but I could understand somone folding this in EP to move up a spot of the money were right. But with 10bb you could blind out before you get a better hand to open shove with.


^ This. You're short stacked, nothing else matters at this point. IF it's on the bubble then fold and fold and hope the bubble bursts before you bust.

AJs doesn't flop well and it's not that great even though it looks pretty, but this is up to you.

If you fold, you're going to be even more short stacked when you finally do get a better hand, IF you get a better hand. The shorter your stack, the more likely you are to get a call by more and more hands. I'd more likely going to fold to a 10bb shove, then I am to a 5bb shove...

If you shove, you're not going to be ahead unless some donkey calls you off with K10, KJo type hands. You're going to be flipping at best, most of the time.

I'd probably shove here unless it was the bubble in which case I'd fold and wait for the bubble to burst. If you've made the money then just easy shove as well.

Since you weren't even near the money so you say, well, I hate to say it but you're going to need to take the risk to make it to the money. Being so short stacked so early on won't be good for your chances.
 
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If your FR and in super early position with AJss it can actually be annoying because our stack is sort of too big to shove and we have a lot of players in front of us. It's almost like we wish we had 7 big blinds so that it would just be really standard and we could easily get called by worse hands or hands that we do really well against. With that being said, I think a shove here is absolutely fine, we have 10 big blinds. Lets increase our stack by 15% or get called and then have 21.5 big blinds.

You may not find a better spot before the level moves up and suddenly you have a stack where shoving any 2 cards is +ev (5 big blinds or less)
 
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easy shove.with 10 bb you cant wait for a better hand in better position
besides big 11 is a tournament with a huge field and you need a big stack to get paid
 
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easy shove.with 10 bb you cant wait for a better hand in better position
besides big 11 is a tournament with a huge field and you need a big stack to get paid

agree easy shove with aj suit with only 10 bb, even with a10 i might consider shoving all in with only 10 bb specially if you are not near the bubble on the tournament.
 
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AJ ss is a good hand to shove with ten bbs...but when you make a decision like that you must to pay attention to other factor...if you are at a final stage of the tournment, if there was any action on the table before you making you decision and things like that, but shoving is a valid option
 
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AJ ss is a good hand to shove with ten bbs...but when you make a decision like that you must to pay attention to other factor...if you are at a final stage of the tournment, if there was any action on the table before you making you decision and things like that, but shoving is a valid option
I respectfully disagree. When you're under 10bb you can't be conjuring up monsters under the bed. You're almost in A2C territory and AJs is way way way better than that. Time to act, not think. Just close your eyes and jump.
 
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These are the mathematically correct hands to be shoving
33+ A8s+ A5s AJo+ K9s+ KQo QTs+ JTs T9s

so i think the aj shove is profitable but i think it depends on your table image, stack sizes etc, so you have to think about a lot of things in this spot but personally i would shove
 
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I personally fold 22 33 44 55 66 utg here if it's in the money it never works out good when u get called
 
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I would also shove it. Especcially with antes you can't wait ages for a premium hand.
 
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AJs is shove with 10bb. Especially from UTG. You cannot hope for much better card (and soon you will have 1.5bb less).
 
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To quote my response from another thread you recently started.



Looking at the answers given so far, they pretty much all say "it depends".



Just because someone in a video folded in a similar spot doesn't mean you should to. There are many variables that come into play like stack sizes, tournament structure, payouts etc.

Great response! (again)
 
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It doesn't depend, not on antes not on position and probably not due to payout either but I could understand somone folding this in EP to move up a spot of the money were right. But with 10bb you could blind out before you get a better hand to open shove with.

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In this particular spot w 10bb's.... Doubt it depends on anything... Its an easy shove.

Maybe if you were final table of some turbo where there were a bunch of extremelyyyyyyy short stacks & ICM came into play you could consider folding.
 
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