Should I have folded?

tony4680

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Winning Poker Network - 50/100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 47.4 BB
UTG+1: 57.11 BB
UTG+2: 69.93 BB
Hero (MP): 61.15 BB
MP+1: 49.9 BB
CO: 33.35 BB
BTN: 61.4 BB
SB: 90.48 BB
BB: 60.43 BB

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K♣ K♥

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 5 BB, UTG+1 raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, BB calls 8 BB

Flop: (43.4 BB, 3 players) 9♥ J♥ 5♥
BB bets 46.33 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 43.01 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 46.33 BB

Turn: (179.07 BB, 3 players) T♣

River: (179.07 BB, 3 players) T♠

UTG+1 shows A♦ A♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 67%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows K♣ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 36%, Turn 31%)
BB shows J♦ J♣ (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 15%, Flop 60%, Turn 67%)
BB wins 179.07 BB

I definitely think would have let it go if I didn't have the heart. Bad call or just a tough spot with such super wet board and a loose player. I guess I was destined to lose my stack the guy with aces was running 54VPIP and wouldn't even of questioned a call without the BB in the hand. Given the action AK of hearts was a plausible holding.

Any thoughts of how to play the hand differently? I think reshoving might have gotten BB off the jacks preflop and I wouldn't be as mad at myself getting coolered. I'm never folding Kings preflop to someone running 54/32
 
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Just now saw the sub forum sorry if a mod or admin wants to move it
 
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tony4680 said:
Winning Poker Network - 50/100 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 47.4 BB
UTG+1: 57.11 BB
UTG+2: 69.93 BB
Hero (MP): 61.15 BB
MP+1: 49.9 BB
CO: 33.35 BB
BTN: 61.4 BB
SB: 90.48 BB
BB: 60.43 BB

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has K♣ K♥

fold, UTG+1 raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 5 BB, UTG+1 raises to 14 BB, Hero calls 8 BB, BB calls 8 BB

Flop: (43.4 BB, 3 players) 9♥ J♥ 5♥
BB bets 46.33 BB and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 43.01 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 46.33 BB

Turn: (179.07 BB, 3 players) T♣

River: (179.07 BB, 3 players) T♠

UTG+1 shows A♦ A♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Tens) (Pre 67%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows K♣ K♥ (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 36%, Turn 31%)
BB shows J♦ J♣ (Full House, Jacks full of Tens) (Pre 15%, Flop 60%, Turn 67%)
BB wins 179.07 BB

I definitely think would have let it go if I didn't have the heart. Bad call or just a tough spot with such super wet board and a loose player. I guess I was destined to lose my stack the guy with aces was running 54VPIP and wouldn't even of questioned a call without the BB in the hand. Given the action AK of hearts was a plausible holding.

Any thoughts of how to play the hand differently? I think reshoving might have gotten BB off the jacks preflop and I wouldn't be as mad at myself getting coolered. I'm never folding Kings preflop to someone running 54/32
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I would have shoved it preflop. Maybe then JJ folds but same result facing with AA. It's important that prefop try to face with only one player. Agains 2 or more players AA/KK very vulnerable!
 
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yeah i was so deep and the bb was playing so tight I wanted to see a flop and evaluate if an ace hit. Stupid i guess but i would of had good equity heads up with the aces on that flop
 
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I agree - shove preflop UNLESS one of those players is notoriously tight and rarely re-raises before the flop. Believe it or not, I find it to be a pretty accurate and consistent tell when a tight player starts re-raising preflop. This usually signals KK or AA, and since you had KK, I'd have leaned towards AA. Amazing how so many regular poker players are unable to conceal KK/AA even a little bit.

Again, depends on the player. Most of the time you are shoving preflop. Unfortunately for you, average or worse players aren't going to fold JJ, and even if he did, you're still up against AA.
 
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get it in preflop. i dont hate the postflop call but you will be up against sets and a heart. so when your good your still racing.
 
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If the utg+1 is tight player,then I ought to fold kk after he raise to 14bb.But now,it looks like he is a loose player.Then I have to push all in before the flop.The result is acceptable.It is poker.
 
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