Set of kings or aces in middle position

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After the river In Board: strong flush draw or straight draw. You play against a player in late position with an average stack. What would you do if you have a set of kings or aces in middle position with a medium stack? how to make sure that the opponent is not have a flush or straight? ( Opponent Passive and all the streets did call)
 
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Need more information on that, would have to see how he was playing in the previously hands too. But if he was just calling all streets, most likely it was a draw. I would make a continuation bet with some value, and if he raises back, probably would fold. But normally I would raise higher on the turn to make him drop the draw or raises the value (you probably have the best hand at this point and you have the odds).
 
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Yeah we need a lot more information on this hand. Its to difficult to give you advice in such a unexplained hand.
 
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and the problem is that the
opponent has not known and
there is no information about
the!
 
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You can check call river if you don't want to be raised on the river. However check/call with set on the river is too tight, most players would bet for value.
 
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we need a lot more information on this hand , it is very difficult to realize what has acerasta opponent as the situation
 
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After the river In Board: strong flush draw or straight draw. You play against a player in late position with an average stack. What would you do if you have a set of kings or aces in middle position with a medium stack? how to make sure that the opponent is not have a flush or straight? ( Opponent Passive and all the streets did call)

Probably I make a c-bet and if he raises or go all-in maybe I fold. But you shoul avoid go to river with AA and KK especially when the flop and turn walks to a possible flush or straight draw. With that hand, AA or KK, we should be agressive starting in pre-flop to avoid situations like the one you describe.
 
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You couldn't make sure if your opponent have a flush or a straight or any until you see all the cards. To be safe fold. To be curious raise or re-raise but curiosity killed the cat, though.
 
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your key is opponent passive so I would check if they go all in being passive ya they probably got ya lol.

Might want to fold depending your stack and their all in?

I honestly check if last to act in those situations and boards a majority of the time. I see people bet without the nuts and to me that is crazy. Only thing that tends to happen to me if bet out there is I get beat and lose more of stack lol.
 
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After the river In Board: strong flush draw or straight draw. You play against a player in late position with an average stack. What would you do if you have a set of kings or aces in middle position with a medium stack? how to make sure that the opponent is not have a flush or straight? ( Opponent Passive and all the streets did call)

Value bet the river and if you get raised, then insta fold. It is super easy to play against these players because they will play fit or fold pretty much 99% of the time.

Never ever pay them off on the river if you get raised because they will always have it (unless u have the nuts yourself). That's why they have these super passive stats like 40/6/0 for example. Against these players, you are the one who determine the action. Bet for value relentlessly until they tell you otherwise!

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just no way to determine what your opponent on his hands. so if you have such a strong hand like a set of kings or aces then the turn Sheath go all in.
 
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After the river In Board: strong flush draw or straight draw. You play against a player in late position with an average stack. What would you do if you have a set of kings or aces in middle position with a medium stack? how to make sure that the opponent is not have a flush or straight? ( Opponent Passive and all the streets did call)


With set not be a mistake play on whole stack , not so often villain will have straight or flush.. It is just necessary to play more aggressive on wet board , not to give the correct odds for villain...
 
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It is better to check his decides before, there is no difficult to read his hand if you are looking at the tournament through it.
 
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AA or KK or QQ - 5bet or if anyone raises - shove pre-flop all-in - should make those with bad hands fold and thus reduce any risks to your cash or stack.. But if you meet stupid fish as I did today not even holy water can save your stack.. :D
 
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This IMO is the Most powerful play in poker. First off if your UTG or UTG+1 this is the best you lead out and it completely disguises your hand as most players that flop a set will try to check raise it which gives away the fact that you have a huge hand. So lead out then CHECK THE TURN that will really F your opponent up and you WILL end up stacking them. Unless luck isnt on your side and they hit a flush or str8 but still it is worth the risk.. Hope this helps. For the record i do play for a living and am very successful

LEAD OUT WITH THE SET 100% of the time
 
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Well I believe that the table has commenced a short time, either you or the villain into the table after you have started. If he had entered after is very complicated as it can be playing completely loose form but if the table recently started or has just arrived at the table I prefer to control the pot and I have no problem drop a best possible hand than sacrifice my stack in a game that I'm not feeling confident.
 
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Sounds like in this situation a continuation bet is in order and fold if passive player re raises.
 
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SET OF KK OR AA IN MID POS

I would fire every street and FK IT if he has the flush you still have outs and a flush is only 29% to hit the turn and 19% to hit the river so your good almost everytime with the set PLAY IT HARD. OR TRAP WITH IT.
 
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Surely Ill bet too.

If he has something, he will just call but if he raises big, Ill run.
 
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There are different options. Players are different. Tournaments are different. In most cases, a set of kings is not thrown.
 
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try to get max-value set of kings or aces great card if opponents catching a straight or a flush you can hit full house on river
 
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Early Streets Bet Strong (w/ AA or KK)

After the river In Board: strong flush draw or straight draw. You play against a player in late position with an average stack. What would you do if you have a set of kings or aces in middle position with a medium stack? how to make sure that the opponent is not have a flush or straight? ( Opponent Passive and all the streets did call)

Your questions not just a simple yes no do this do that. It all depends on situation and player. Ultimately I suggest betting your big hands hard early vs trapping just because it bites you more often than not when you don't. Too many new players worry too much about loosing their oppenent with a big hand and dont bet enough when they are holding AA or KK and i think thats a mistake, but again situational:congrats:
 
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You shouldve played your kings or aces more aggressively in the beginning to avoid this situation at all.
 
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regardless of the opponent's game here in any case should be placed. if he did not, in any case do not get the money.
 
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You should bet 2-3 BB or the same sum you raised on turn. If he reraise - just fold. May be you lose this 2-3 BB, but avoid hard decision "call or fold" on his almost obligatory more expensive bet after you, which is not clear - bluff or value.
 
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