Seem to do very well after I hit 4k.

Hi.

I know that to be a good multi-table tourney plr you need to be aggressive. Let's say you only go in with monsters, but that way you'll never be consistant. Anyway, I always mange to showdown ppl enough to get to at least 4k respectively.

After that, I screw up.

Don't get me wrong, I've won a couple large tourneys (I think I placed 75th for a 9k plr tourney) but whenever I get past that average stack (3-5k) I get SUPER aggressive----like stupidly aggressive.

Today:
Ex1: Had j-9 and achieved top pair. Villain calls with a-4 hoping to catch a 5---he does. Goes all-in, and I call.
Ex2: Had q-j and achieved top pair. Villain raises all-in, I call---he shows pocket aces.
Ex3: Knew villain was going for flush draw. Raised him all-in with air and he calls. Next hand, I get pocket deuces and raise all-in...

Stuff like that. Am I scared of being a mediocre plr or something???

There is no need to get overly aggressive at this point, you are still WAY off from the finishing line. For a start, 4k in chips from 2500 I assume or maybe 3000 isn't a time to step it up. Surely at this point, blinds are still low aren't they.. You should only apply pressure if you have a HUGE stack and blinds are creeping up, IE: 20-30 and that's when you start stealing not when you stil have 50-100.


Your examples we a can't advise on because we don't know your current stack and blinds in relation.

EX1:I can't even work out your first example, clearly this is a bad play from this player but you calling a shove with blinds which are still low with J high on a board that clearly shows a straight draw?

EX2: Again, we need to know what the blinds are and positions are, all you are saying is what happened. Need a lot more than that to say if's correct play or not. However again any chip stack of 4000k then this indicates blinds are still quite low and why you are calling shoves on a flop with Q,J is beyond me. I assumed he did raise pre flop? There is no need to be stacking off unless you're confident you have the nuts and so on because blinds again are still low. You don't need to flip and hope.

EX3: Your example 3. Even if you're 100% sure he's going for a flush draw then yeah it's fine to make him pay if you have something at least lol. Not re-raise all in with what? A high? Sure he shouldn't be calling, but they do which is fine IF you have him beat at present. People can often have flush draw but can actually have a piece of the board along with it. Again, blinds if low - you don't need to be overly aggressive, whats the point?

Decues, all in with 4k in chips and low blinds still are what? Need examples buddy like I say. If you have 2-5bb's left then yeah fine, but if you're still deep in terms of blinds then that's awful play and I don't understand what you're trying to achieve here.

Thanks for putting it into perspective!!!

Ex1: Ya, the j-high straight draw eluded me. Maybe I shoulda respected him a lot more.

Ex2: He raises pre-flop to about 5x big blind. I had about 5k ad he had about 10k.

Ex3: The blinds were very low.

Sounds like I'm flipping a coin a lot to get to the 20k mark. I think I'm going to start counting how much blinds I have.

Thanks A LOT!!

Play a lot tighter. Most the hands you mention shouldn't be being played anyway (QJo, J9o) they don't flop much and you can loose a lot of money if you can't laydown top pair

eqgh5uea said:

Thanks for putting it into perspective!!!

Ex1: Ya, the j-high straight draw eluded me. Maybe I shoulda respected him a lot more.

Ex2: He raises pre-flop to about 5x big blind. I had about 5k ad he had about 10k.

Ex3: The blinds were very low.

Sounds like I'm flipping a coin a lot to get to the 20k mark. I think I'm going to start counting how much blinds I have.

Thanks A LOT!!

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EX1: Yeah, when someone over bets or shoves the river and the board runs out like that, you know they are trying to make you think it;s a bluff.

EX2:Well, the 5x raise should set alarm bells of already and early position. If he is tight then you should be folding, it's "ok" sometimes to call with suited Q,J hoping to hit a monster but again, out of position this usually isn't ideal. If he's loose then you need to be re-raising him to put pressure back and if he shoves you fold. If he flats you can assign a different range. The shove on the flop though just shows Aces/Kings/A,Q at LEAST so either way even if he had the queen, you're way behind. Easy fold.

EX3: decues are a no go really. You shouldn't be opening with these in early position/mid position that's for sure when blinds are low. You should be trying to get in the pot cheaply to try hit a set. As for the shove though, blinds are still low like I say. No ante's will be in play and well shoving and getting call by ANY two cards you're most likely going to be behind or flipping all to try steal 100 in blinds to start with? I'd sooner have any suited connectors than deuces all in preflop any day. What was you hoping to get called by? Anything that calls you is likely going to be crushing you.

Oh and yeah just I think you're applying the pressure far far to early. This is the time to sit back and watch the donkeys knock each other out and not get involved unless you have a monster.

First of all, calling people all-in isn't being aggressive.

Don't just play aggro just b/c you've got a big stack. Think about player images, stack sizes, position, villians ranges, what percentage of my stack am I raising/calling. What percentage of villians stack are they raising/calling/ or betting. Many factors go into each move not just stack size.

My style leads me into small stack early but after I mount the come back I Blaze Up....

To wislim and ramdeebam:

Thanks for the nifo guys!!!

I was into magic tricks when I was younger and even did a couple of shows so I can predict a lot of cards...

Either way, I was being way too overconfident by not seeing if the image was right to call a top-pair. Thanks for the 3-bet analysis!!!

eqgh5uea said:

I was into magic tricks when I was younger and even did a couple of shows so I can predict a lot of cards...

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Umm. Wut? Tell me that's a joke that just went over my head?

Me too -- especially when I have AK vs AQ; I'm pretty sure I know what's coming

eqgh5uea said:

I can predict cards...

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Like you can predict the cards that are about to come on the river? Or you can read people?

And this is because you did magic tricks when you were younger?

Hmmm....

eqgh5uea said:

I can predict cards...

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Lulz. I've heard players say some off-the-wall things about poker, but this one has to take the cake. That, or nice level.

So why aren't you taking on Durr, Ivey, and Antonius? I'm sure with your superhuman powers, you'd have no trouble finding backers to get started.

BTW, I'd love to know what discipline of magic allows you predict ANY cards from a standard, shuffled deck that you haven't touched -- much less a sophisticated RNG. And yes, I have about 35 years of experience as an amateur magician specializing in coin & card manipulations. While I know my Charlier Pass from my Tenkai Palm, I'm afraid I missed the lesson about psychic card prediction with a deck I have no control over.

dmorris68 said:

Lulz. I've heard players say some off-the-wall things about poker, but this one has to take the cake. That, or nice level.

So why aren't you taking on Durr, Ivey, and Antonius? I'm sure with your superhuman powers, you'd have no trouble finding backers to get started.

BTW, I'd love to know what discipline of magic allows you predict ANY cards from a standard, shuffled deck that you haven't touched -- much less a sophisticated RNG. And yes, I have about 35 years of experience as an amateur magician specializing in coin & card manipulations. While I know my Charlier Pass from my Tenkai Palm, I'm afraid I missed the lesson about psychic card prediction with a deck I have no control over.

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Want me to make a video???

I'll show you. My grandfather was a healer who could predict many things... I seem to have inhereted his prowess for vision quests. I doubt you ppl will understand our traditions. Does it make me a bad plr??? Yes, and no!!!

P.S. I'm not that good yet.

Check this video out: ---> 5:30

eqgh5uea said:

Want me to make a video???

I'll show you. My grandfather was a healer who could predict many things... I seem to have inhereted his prowess for vision quests. I doubt you ppl will understand our traditions. Does it make me a bad plr??? Yes, and no!!!

P.S. I'm not that good yet.

Check this video out: ---> 5:30 YouTube - James Galea - Amazing card tricks with Ellen Degeneres

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Knowing how to stack the deck and having a set of cards where you can always cut to right spot are what this guys is doing. He is not making up the story based off of what cards are coming. The story is the same every time he does the trick.

oh. k, ill make a video after my freeroll.

danprince10 said:

Check this video out: ---> 5:30

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Oh boy. I really want to believe that you're on a level here, but if you're using that video as supporting evidence for your argument, then it's obvious you really don't understand anything about basic card production and manipulation.

Since this is absurd on so many levels, I'm going with the level theory. Nice one. Formerly banned member, perhaps?

I'm curious.... what is the '4k mark'? Is this a certain spot in the tourney?
OP, my suggestion > read a few books on basic tournament theory. (ie. Harrington On Holdem Vol.1 &2 - Tournament Play, & Phil Gordon's "Little Green Book").
OP, a question for ya > I find personally I'm very good at putting my opponents on hands but I believe this has come about from playing ALOT & studying ALOT. I've never had any success at > predicting cards (ie. today I would've folded my AKs allin pre vs K5.. & my AK vs 77 for a 80bb pot & the QQ < AK in another massive pot). I'm just wondering.... if you're able to predict the cards then why would you need any help at all? Shouldn't you be able to pretty much win them all? (ie. I'm never re-raising allin on flop with NutFlushDraw & overs if I know it's not gonna hit).

Poker Orifice said:

I'm curious.... what is the '4k mark'? Is this a certain spot in the tourney?
OP, my suggestion > read a few books on basic tournament theory. (ie. Harrington On Holdem Vol.1 &2 - Tournament Play, & Phil Gordon's "Little Green Book").
OP, a question for ya > I find personally I'm very good at putting my opponents on hands but I believe this has come about from playing ALOT & studying ALOT. I've never had any success at > predicting cards (ie. today I would've folded my AKs allin pre vs K5.. & my AK vs 77 for a 80bb pot & the QQ < AK in another massive pot). I'm just wondering.... if you're able to predict the cards then why would you need any help at all? Shouldn't you be able to pretty much win them all? (ie. I'm never re-raising allin on flop with NutFlushDraw & overs if I know it's not gonna hit).

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Okay, I'll try to find those books.

I meant I used to predict them in magic shows I used to do for the community center. Umm, when it comes to poker it's A LOT harder... I haven't the right nor the experience to incorperate such an abstract expo-facto- concept to the financial foundation found in poker.

I made a video but I have to wait untill I get a data plan for my phone. I predicted an 8 of <3s and a Q of diamonds. Maybe I'll make another video of trying to make a straight without looking at teh cards.

I do close up magic (mostly card magic) for some years. If I only knew I could put that knowledge to use in poker...

I'd be interested in checking out the vid.
I'm also open-minded enough to 'believe' (some may call that naive but I don't think so).

RVladimiro said:

I do close up magic (mostly card magic) for some years. If I only knew I could put that knowledge to use in poker...

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Ya, it's pretty tough.

eqgh5uea said:

Anyway, I always mange to showdown ppl enough to get to at least 4k respectively.

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I'm sure you remember criticising the M formula in a recent thread as simplistic and useless (although you had seemed to confuse it with a percentage calculation), well telling us that you have 4k in chips... that doesn't tell us anything!

Check out some of the links and books that have already been suggested

Samango said:

I'm sure you remember criticising the M formula in a recent thread as simplistic and useless (although you had seemed to confuse it with a percentage calculation), well telling us that you have 4k in chips... that doesn't tell us anything!

Check out some of the links and books that have already been suggested

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I was criticising it because it's useless. Anyway, it isn't divisino?

P.S. It's just simple division like dividing your stack against/with the blinds... I'm not knocking it, it's just annoying that Muhammed's al-gebra is used for stupid things like that.

P.S.S. I'll read another book if you read just one page of this whole thing:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Advanced_mining

Play your personal standard solid poker. Don't be too aggressive unless you have over 75 big blinds or so. bluffing is overrated, and bigger hands will win more often of the time. Before making meaningless bluff raises, ask yourself, is this move a mistake, cause if so, my opponent is winning the battle on least mistakes, which in turn is the ultimate winner in the game of poker.