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Ever? 6 max or full ring. Say late in tournament with 100BB
 
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Yea I would raise 3X the BB with AK
 
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Ever? 6 max or full ring. Say late in tournament with 100BB
So you want to know if I'm ever raising with SC's from UTG late in MTT with a 100bb stack.
Answer: sometimes
Reasoning: 'it depends'

That's about as good of an answer as you're getting from me here.
 
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Late on in an MTT i would nearly always raise SC in early position with 100BB's for a few reasons:

Firstly you may pick up the blinds and antes which is always handy to add to your stack as they are usually big at this stage.
Secondly if you do miss the flop with say 67s you can still rep an Ace if the flop is Ace high and take the pot down with a c-bet anyway (dependant on your table image).
And thirdly and maybe most importantly that doubling up 100bb's at a late stage in a tournament is invaluble as it can give you a real shot at taking the tournament down and means you can take some hits to your stack without being critical. With you having 100bb's theres no problem folding to a 3- bet pre either as you are not risking alot of your stack.

Hope this helps :)
 
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wait, what tournaments are there when one's got 100bb late game?

There are situations where it's good, but for the vast majority of the time, it isn't. It's a advanced play, that needs advanced reasonings to do so, just play tight from EP, TT+/AK for 9max and 77+ AJs KQs AQ+ for 6max, widening the ranges when there's big fish at the table especially when there's ones in the blinds

and the idea of almost always opening for the possibility of staking, that's just bad advice, assuming you're talking about 9max, 6max can be good with antes involved. There's this theory called ICM, and basically it goes 1 chip does not = 1 chip in a tournament, and the more chips one has the bigger the difference. Opening SC from UTG in 100bb cash games as a standard in 9max or 6max is just a losing play, there would have to be a massive skill difference to pull it off and going by OP, do you think this guy is super skilled?
 
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Lol just read over that, say your close to chip leader with 10 left, would you ever play SC's in utg in a 6max tournament? when ever I make final table i'm usually super short and go out at 5th or 6th. Just trying to get weanesses out of my game.
Cheers for the replys.
 
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Ever? 6 max or full ring. Say late in tournament with 100BB

Buy-in ??

So you want to know if I'm ever raising with SC's from UTG late in MTT with a 100bb stack.
Answer: sometimes
Reasoning: 'it depends'

That's about as good of an answer as you're getting from me here.


^ditto, but I would add that if you do this, playem like they be Rockets!
 
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If you think it through, you can probably answer your own question, and you should end up with "it depends" per PO. For starters, are you betting or limping? What situations / circumstances are the best fit for each of these actions? This includes not just any action before you act, but also the tendencies of the players behind you.

As a simple example, if you're at a table where there's frequent 3betting, that generally mitigates against playing SCs at all, and more so the earlier your position. However, there still may be reasons to play the, such as to polarize your range.
 
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Hmm, not sure we're counting AK as a 'suited connector'

Lol, I was joking.

Just out of curiosity, would KQ count as a suited connector?

Or are qe talking 9T suited and under?
 
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If we were voting on a definition for SC's I would vote for JTs and lower.

huh?
 
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Hardly ever - but there is no such thing as never. It is entirely situational. But your overall default should be looking to fold SC UTG - UNLESS....
 
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I agree that SC should be JTs and lower.
 
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Depends on how strong the suited connecters are. AK, KQ, I'd raise with. QJ and J10 is worth a call to me, hoping to see a cheap flop (I play small pocket pairs the same way). 10 9 is a MAYBE, depending on my position UTG. Anything else is a fold UTG.

I also find QJ and J10 good enough to shove with in the late stages when short stacked.
 
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