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This is the place for reviewing my HHs from last weeks Sunday $125k Guaranteed Freezeout.
 
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Files unexpectedly not valid for upload, so standby on the HHs part... :eek:
 
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5/ A10o 3x pre
11/ 109o, raising is cool checking back is fine too
20/ 107o id def be opening this BVB i only really fold unplayable stuff, probe opening like 22+ Axs Axo K7o K6s 56s+ 78o+ Q8o J8o 107o
29/ 65o fine with folding this in a vacuum but opening ATC given we walked him last orbit
30/ opening my button there with Q7o spec given how tight everyone is
31/ since we folded last two hands i love opening Ax here, normally fold is fine.
38/fold is fine although i wouldn't hate opening it
39/ 88 note his sizing 3.25x, were you just setmining here? i think i would be, def folding that board, maybe flatting one bet on 7xx boards but never 2 barrels v that sizing pre.
43/ we are so deep i think you can still 3x, b/f flop to like 330 imo
46/ flatting v first bet, easy fold v 3bet, good blocker value to cold 4b/f but seems way too tight to be even close to ok
47/ pre good, flop good, turn i think i bet a bit smaller just to get Ax to come along like 330. but its fine as is
48/ just for reference im opening lke 80% of buttons
52/ fine depending how tight he is, flatting most PP and QKs AQ and AJs
55/ cool cold 4bet spot if SB is active or you scope him and he is good. K blocker also helps
59/ def opening this especially given how inactive you have been
62/ im opening this also given two fish based on SD behind
65/ worth checking stats to 3bet, otherwise flatting or folding is fine
73/ im probably thinking about 3b/f here just given this guy is impinge etc we can comfortable fold to his 4bet range and he will flat everything pre. on flop im fine with folding to that bet sizing
74/ argument for 3betting or defending but foldings fine
75/ its ok to raise pre since this guy has a capped range and we have position and our bet will work a high %
78/ opening here
99/ really don't understand his line here, so i probably would raise/fold here expecting him to donk/fold a ton here since sets c/r or c/c on this texture and you have a lot of 1010+in your range so its often like 3x 4x 9x 'betting for info' type shit.
102/flatting or 3betting here
103/ def opening here
106/ opening here
109/ good squeeze/fold spot
110/ same again
118/insta fish mark KK for opening size
120/ open please
121/ pretty wtf line, but i play it the same
123/ glad you opened that
126/ think defending is ok here (even defending and giving up occasionally postflop will stop this constant opening on your bb, you are making it correct for them to open ATC from button or SB)
129/ hate the bet sizing, 950 accomplishes same thing
132/ bet sizing is better
136/ this is really really nitty, 3bet or defend please
139/ NH! i hope that was based on his rather transparent bet sizing tells
140/ id open
141/ much rather open hand before but still cool with that
142/ keep pre sizing consistent please, this is really wtf in terms of his sizing, since he has bet sizing tells i think folding here is fine since he has Ax 100%, if he bet smaller i would be raising
147/ open
150/ can open here, folding is fine too (3 reshove stacks behind that haven't displayed the ability to reshove yet
156/ 3bet based on sizing, or you can flat since his range is capped
157/ gross flop that smacks his range but i bet/fold here also
158 would note that he isn't 3betting anything at any stack size
162/ no need to bet flop here
163/ raising is cool here based on their capped ranges, probe getting it in v laur
166/ fine with folding purely based on blind stack sizes
171/ NH
172 hand is fine i think i lead turn tho v this passive villain since he will station of wider but wont double barrel at all, river bet looks awkward for him but he is a fish, normally go like 3.3k
174/ read dependent. getting 1.5 to 1, worth stoving but normally id be r/c here
175/given we r/f last time i like 4b/f here
179/ don love checking back since he is too passive to bluff but will call with worse
182/ gross hand, would like to hear some reasoning as to why you called here and folded previously
199/ hard here, he isn't folind much but i think we are marginally ahead of his opening range, and may have some folde equity
206/ could argue for squeeze shoving here and picking up the 5k in middle, we have an awkward amount for either to lose.
207/ r/f
208/ could almost r/c here, 14k for sure
212/ can probably rip here
215/ super std shove with 14bb, just run better IMO

Overall,
need to flat hands IP more often
need to open up all your ranges (flatting/3betting/opening) from 50bb and down post ante, you need to go after the weaker players a bit more
you need to drastically open up your button range until you get a reason to tighten up,
you need to look for squeeze and 4b/f spots a bit more
you played pretty tight but very solid, pretty much only bet for value and very rarely 3bet.
 
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duggs, where are you seeing the hands? I'll take a look if ya like, Scourrge.
 
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he sent it to me via skype, just working out how to upload it mate
 
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too big to upload but i dont really want to copy+paste an entire tournament history into the thread
 
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Link appears to work. It won't show a preview but it should download just fine.

Thanks duggs!!
 
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Currently working on responses to duggs. Anyone who graces me with some comments will get replies back, promise!! Here's what I'm up to so far:

5. ATo I'm used to cash sizing, so I think I raised smaller because I was in LP. Is this a no no in tourneys?

11. Yeah, I find that typically I'll pick up the bb for free, and if he flats it's still likely to be a weak hand and I'll have position, both of which are things I like when I have a playable post flop hand.

20. T7o Hmm… Well I was trying not to get too out of line early by raising, and frankly I don't see T7o as too playable. I know what you mean though. This one likely could have gone either way and I just leaned toward folding it because there would be lots of other spots (and with no antes out I'm not missing too much value I think).

30. Q7o Yeah I'd agree.

31. A6o Agree.

38. Okie dokie.

39. Yep, set-mining. Ez flop fold.

43. I understand bigger pre, but why bigger flop? I think I'm still betting for value but I think it's pretty thin, so I figured betting smaller to keep weaker hands in was fine.
 
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5/ its a no in general this deep, 3x pre with all our value hands and 3x pre with all our steal hands, otherwise we end up sizing according ot hand strength (even if we do it according to hand strength we have a stronger range in EP so its effectively the same thing). A10 is a value hand here and effective stacks are so deep we want to 3x.

11/ yea while thats true there are also a bunch of flops where we struggle to continue so i prefer checking back, since he can be limp/calling a ton that beats us/has good equity on boards we miss.

20/ we also want to set up a dynamic where we constantly attack his BB to the point that he gets stationy post

43/ SPR of approx 19, so we should be sizing bigger the deeper stacks are, also heaps of draws and weaker combos call here so we should be betting like 66% pot or so and folding when raised. because we would be betting 66% with sets/flopped straights/flopped flushes/AAs etc
 
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also 43/ isnt that thin because worse pairs with a spade all call ie, 77s-1010s J10s J10o AQ AJ. and we want to get more value from these and generally have a balanced betting range,
 
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Weird, naruto - not sure what's going on with that. Duggs, maybe just copy-paste into a regular google doc??
 
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really mate? i click on the link and hit download and it automatically starts downloading? check your download feed
 
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Iv kept it in RTF format so noone can mess up when formatting it for the HH replayer (I use universal) hence the doc upload as is
 
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Ah ok. Yeah the download is still working for me as well. =/
 
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Hoping to get the rest of the responses to duggs done by the weekend. (Thanks again, duggs!)

46. KQdd Yeah I wasn't too keen on going MW OOP into a 3bet pot.

47. KQo I agree that I probably could have gone smaller on the turn, a bit under half.

48. K5o I assume you meant unopened pots?

52. KQo Yeah most of the table was tight, he was UTG+1,

55. K6o In general cold 4bets aren't even on my radar since I'm so used to 10nl, but duly noted.

59. 98o Again, I assume you mean an unopened pot?

62. KJo Yup. I know we were still deep but I probably shouldn't have been quite so tight here.

65. KTo I don't think I would have even checked Fv3b stats here, so thanks for that note - It makes sense to 3bet this hand since it's a bit weaker than a hand I would ever flat here.

73. AQo. I think I just have it a bit too engrained not to be value-3betting hands like AQo since at 10nl FR it's a bit of a nit-fest at times and people will never call much worse and playing OOP can be tricky. When he bet so big on the flop I didn't feel it would be profitable to float, as facing a probable turn bet would be tricky to deal with if our hand didn't improve.

74. 87o I'm not uber-comfortable 3bet-bluffing with hands that don't have any blockers, even if they play decently post, though with the tightness of this table I could probably be on board as well.

75. T8o I agree a raise here pre would be a solid play. I didn't really have jitters at this point but I was still probably a little too focused on not making a fool of myself, and I was mostly sticking to "tight is right." But in retrospect a raise looks good.

78. A6s If it had gotten to me I can't guarantee I WOULD have raised, but I agree that it should be.

99. ATs I guess so - I just figured that a "donk for info" would be a bit of a smaller bet, and felt that MW the large bet could represent 9x (likely not folding to raises with this sizing) or sets (obviously never folding ever). I could be wrong, but it also seems like I'd have to be committing a lot of chips to accomplish this, and if I was wrong it'd be a big blunder. Very curious to hear more from you about this hand.

102. JTo, yep, following the general theme of "I was playing too tight."

103. A5o Yeah I really have no clue why I didn't open this from the CO.

106. KTo Mhm.

109. K6o Yep definitely agree this is like the mother of all good squeeze spots.

110. T8o Ok looking back yes this does look like a good squeeze spot. Though my thinking in the moment is not quite as solid as with post analysis, so I maybe didn't even consider a squeeze (ie bluff 3betting in general with no blockers).

118. 84s Yeah I'm pretty sure he made enormous raises multiple times.

120. K5o Hehe, yessir. Not really sure why I didn't to be honest...

121. AQo I mean yeah, it looked like a blocking bet with a gunshot (and maybe Jx) more than anything I think, so could make an argument for raising a bit smaller, but I'm happy with how I played it in general.

123. JTs Hehe, you're welcome. It's easier to decide to raise when they're sooted.
 
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So after some time of trying got it to DL in explorer but the HH is so messed up I can't really figure out how to read it accurately (So can you tell me how to fix this/clean it up to make it easier to read), and i'll also input
 

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thats the merge raw HH (****ing ugly i know) download Universal Replayer off the net (its bug free i can vouch for it) and open it, run it, click file convert HH, (input this file) click load and it should open the whole tournament for you to browse through, hands will be numbered in the top right.
 
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And here's the rest.

126. 87o Right, that all makes sense. Again it's tough coming from a FR micro background because doing that is a huge leak usually where I play. I need to do some work on adjusting for limit/game I am playing.

129. ATs Agreed. This was just an outright mistake. Cash sizing seeping in cause I got sloppy.

132. 99 Agreed again :)

136. A9o Okay this one is most likely attributed to playing just a touch too tight. Agreed this should be a 3bet all day - don't love A9 as a defending hand, especially offsuit.

139. A2o Yep. Finally got my stuff together and managed a passable 3bet. :)

140. A6o Still following the trend.

141. 64s Soooooooted.

142. KTs Yeah was SMH, but the PSB is prob always Ax or better.

147. T7o Yessir.

150. T9o Fair. Again seeing the trend…

156. KTo Yeah not sure if I went on auto-pilot here or what, but I agree a 3bet or flat here are both pretty close and better than folding.

157. A9o Not to mention that the sizing makes this a pretty easy fold… But yeah so often just gonna take this down on the flop with a tiny bet, so I basically felt I had to bet/fold.

158. Not sure I follow this - you mean the 95o hand??

162. ATo You think I should check my ace back because I have so much SDV?

163. A3o Getting it in pre you mean?

166. J6o Indeed.

171. A8s Why thank you.

172. KQo Yeah in retrospect I think I should definitely bet, especially since the board got a bit draw-heavy.

174. A7o Just felt like super awkward sizing -> like he didn't want to go all-in so I didn't just see the call/fold buttons… Usually looks strong to me, but this may be reading too much into it?

175. A2o. Ew. I mean I guess I understand that logic, but given that there wasn't too much 3betting going on even at this stage I would have been skeptical of investing so much into that kind of play. But tbh I don't think 4b/f would have even crossed my mind.

179. K9o I agree he's too passive to bluff, but I'm not convinced he calls worse, or rather, more of his call range is stuff that beats us, and we fold out stuff he might call turns with when we bet flop.

182. ATo Looked like a really nice 3bet jamming spot for him, and I felt more comfortable holding AT than a weaker A I guess. Still looking back not sure I like the call given the odds I'm getting and for such a big chunk of my stack.

199. A9o I think I could be in favor of shipping or folding here, yeah. It's a tough spot imo. Would love to hear more thoughts about it.

206. J5o Okay that makes sense - I think I still get bogged down with wanting hands with at least some equity, but even when called we likely have 2 live cards, so a shove makes sense I suppose.

207. 52o Yikes. Ok. Guess I still need some late-game work. This hand just looks so ugly especially when we get called.

208. 99 Yeah I struggled here, but figured I would really hate my life if the board came KJx or something, and certainly wouldn't complain about taking down the blinds.

212. JTo rip = Raise in position?? Rest in peace?? Lol.

215. I assume you meant the KJo not the J7o?? And yeah, could def make arguments for waiting for a different spot, but I just hate getting down to 10 bb or below and then doubling up means so much less.


Def agree with your summary of my play, and I think some of it has to do with experience, some of it with getting used to the limit I was playing at (get a lot more respect when making moves and can therefore make them much more often than at really low limits).
 
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sorry been busy last few days ill go through it now
 
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I honestly can't even figure out how to DL the universal poker real player...It dowl loads, but then I can't figure out how to open it up for nothing at all
 
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responses to your comments/questions when warranted

48/ was unopened
59/ was unopened
73/ you really need to adjust ranges for opponents someone opening wide and never r/f (or just not r/f enough in general) means we can 3bet way wider in general, same applies in cash people just don't play as bad but im sure there are plenty of spots you can 3bet Aqo for value.
74/ a lot of the time your hand is virtually irrelevant plus we aren't ever dominated post flop when we hit
78/ are we seeing same hand? seems to me like you have no action in front of you, same with 48 and 59
99/ wouldn't do it readless but iv pegged this guy as active so he can be leading a lot expecting to win the pot a lot since we have a weak tight image and its better for him to bet as a bluff than float or bluff catch cause we have a perceived narrow vbet range and a non existent bluff range in his eyes. i probably make it like 2.45k and fold to further action unless we turn equity, (hearts, 10x Ax 2h and 5h being the drawing nuts.)
110/ don't overestimate the importance of blockers, the attractiveness of a spot is far more important
sorry 158=159
162/ because SS is all in and you get snapped of by better, just check it down.
163/ raising to like 1.6k and snapping off laur unless Ellie or KK get involved
174/ at his effective stack id be shoving pre, so im def r/c here and folding/4betting action from the other two.
175/ think its a great spot for it with our image tbh, cool with discussing further,
179/ another problem with checking back Kx here is that it looks like exactly what it is.
182/ come on man, A10 is a loving life snap here, don't be results orientated.
199/ typically he is always calling us and we have marginal equity but he has shown he is unaware of stack sizes so i think we get through more than we should.
 
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well in PT3 the hands aren't numbered so I had to count ahead for each new hand and may have gotten off a time or two.

99. Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I have to get used to opponents actually paying attention to my plays, and beyond that, actually trying to read my hand...

110. Yeah I definitely overestimate blockers a bit.

175. Yes. I understand that in theory and it makes sense, but because I'm so used to 10nl cash and like $5 tourneys I'm not used to having the luxury of making plays this sophisticated, even if it crosses my mind. If I have a significant 4bet-bluffing range against almost any opponent at 10nl it's a huge leak. But I agree that at this limit, and with my tight-as-hell image it is a really solid spot for it.

179. Same as 110.

182. Yeah ^.^

199. Ok, makes sense.


Basically I need to make way more table-based adjustments, and understand my own image as well. In addition there are still some areas where I can work at picking up reads better.
 
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