Right play?(probably not)

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$1.50 9-man sng on stars, 8 players left.
blinds 25/50, I have 1300 chips left
I´m in co with Ah 3s, everyone folds and I raise to 100.
Button and SB fold, BB(3k chips) calls.

Flop is

7h Ad 9c
He bets 50, I call

Turn 8c
He bets 50, I raise to 200 and he calls

River Ac
He checks, I bet 350, he puts me all in and I call.

He shows 4c 5c and wins the pot with a club flush against my three aces.

Probably should have raised on the flop?
 
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i think you should fold preflop... after the flop is hard to say, he called preflop so we can think that he have an Ace and against your Ace 3 kicker, he should have Ace 2 to lose, and when he checks we can think that he is making a checking-raise move... then in the turn you should fold definitively there is so much hands who can beat you, and in the river, no matter you have a set of aces, there is so many hands to beat you, so you have to check and see what he have, learn about your villain how he plays, if he is a lyier, if he likes check-raise, etc...

The hand was played bad, but u dont have to be mad, this help you to improve your game. i wish i could help you
 
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There are a few ways I would have played this differently. Contrary to the previous poster, I think this hand is perfectly playable from the CO considering the stage of the tourney and you stack size. I would have made a larger opening raise to 3BB. When the SB donks with a min raise, I think you should reraise in this instance to a pot size bet. You have to figure out where you stand in the hand. If you don't, the SB will have stolen initiative and control of the hand. If you reraise SB likely folds before getting a chance to realize equity on later streets. If they call, be wary. If they 3bet, I'm folding this particular hand immediately, without any additional info.

If the SB calls the reraise on the flop, they are likely to check the turn. You will have the option of checking behind, or raising the pot again. You will need to put your opponent on a range of hands and figure out the best option.

Similar action will be taken on the river. If you checked behind on the turn your opponent may take control of the betting. If they do, you will need to need to gauge the strength of your hand and consider your options, raise/call/fold.
 
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I think needed to bet stronger on flop, something like 200 or 300.
 
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hmm raise on flp

you should raise on the flop....:)
 
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i think you should fold preflop... after the flop is hard to say, he called preflop so we can think that he have an Ace and against your Ace 3 kicker, he should have Ace 2 to lose, and when he checks we can think that he is making a checking-raise move... then in the turn you should fold definitively there is so much hands who can beat you, and in the river, no matter you have a set of aces, there is so many hands to beat you, so you have to check and see what he have, learn about your villain how he plays, if he is a lyier, if he likes check-raise, etc...

The hand was played bad, but u dont have to be mad, this help you to improve your game. i wish i could help you

He needed to pot raise preflop like other posters have said... Geez, delete that corny image of you kissing your girlfriend. Its almost as silly as bringing your baby's picture to the poker table.
 
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What's the problem with my avatar? it's mine, not yours, and everybody has the right to put what they want.

You are not going to be better player than me, and you are not more man than me because my avatar.


He needed to pot raise preflop like other posters have said... Geez, delete that corny image of you kissing your girlfriend. Its almost as silly as bringing your baby's picture to the poker table.
 
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What's the problem with my avatar? it's mine, not yours, and everybody has the right to put what they want.

You are not going to be better player than me, and you are not more man than me because my avatar.


Sorry pal, its corny as hell to have that as your avatar. You don't like my opinion, don't read it.
 
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I think you made 2 mistakes .

First , preflop you fold this hand or you make o higher raise
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Second , yes you had to make a bigger raise in the flop!
 
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You shouldn't have call pref lop and should have bet stronger on the flop
 
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I guess you can't reraise the flop because you are not sure about your hand when you have a bad kicker :( Preflop you could either raise bigger or fold the hand if you don't want to play it. It was very easy for him to call preflop.
 
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$1.50 9-man sng on stars, 8 players left.
blinds 25/50, I have 1300 chips left
I´m in co with Ah 3s, everyone folds and I raise to 100.
Button and SB fold, BB(3k chips) calls.

Flop is

7h Ad 9c
He bets 50, I call

Turn 8c
He bets 50, I raise to 200 and he calls

River Ac
He checks, I bet 350, he puts me all in and I call.

He shows 4c 5c and wins the pot with a club flush against my three aces.

Probably should have raised on the flop?

Several mistakes were made during this hand.
1. Opening
You do not want to open these type of hands so early in the tournament. When opening these type of hands your main goal should be stealing the blinds and antees. Becouse the blinds are small and antees have not kicked in yet there is no point in opening. Small preflop mistakes lead to big ones postflop.
2. Bet sizing
When you do decide to raise I still think you are trying to steal the blinds. Becouse of that you want to price out SB and BB from calling or give them a chance to make a mistake preflop and make -EV call. When you bet that small BB gets 3.5/1 on a call and you don't know what your opponent is calling with. 4 5s is an easy call for him giving the price he is getting. When you bet 3 or 3.5BB you can specify the range he has when he calls or raises.
3.Not raising on the flop
When you open and the opponent who I assume is fishy donk bets in to you OOP I almost always assume he wants to see the next 2 streets cheaply or is holding a small pocket pair, some draws or midle pairs. There you want to make around a pot size bet againt to price him out of his draws and gice him a chance to make a -EV call.
4. Raising/raising small on the turn
You have showdown value there and the opponent is giving you the right price to pay and you might have the best hand there.You should just call. If you do decide to raise your bet sizing should be at least 3/4 of the pot.
5.Raising the river
When you raise the general thought is to make better hands fold or to make worse hands call. Looking at the board, your opponent and the way he played what can he call your bet with? Only thing that he can call here with that you beat are some 9 type hands. The flush draw is there, straight draws with some 65 and JT type hands that would donk on the flop . We disregard sets couse of his donking on the flop. Generally when fish raise especially passive fish they have the goods. Check raise on the river is especially strong and now we disregard the 9 type hands and becouse of the way he played earlier streets you must consider folding here.
 
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hi
yes,you should raise post flop
if you just call post flop,call the turn and river
your mistake in my opinion was the raise on the turn.you made a big pot with a weak ace and you were commited to call his all in later
if you just call the turn and bet the river,he ll make a raise not an all in.if he shoves you can fold
 
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