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PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|400/800 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 3.43 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 8)
MP: 3.43 BB (VPIP: 15.56, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 90)
CO: 3.91 BB
BTN: 3.37 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 32)
SB: 12.14 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BB: 3.76 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (UTG): 29.76 BB

7 players post ante of 0.09 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.16 BB) Hero has A:heart: 5:heart:

Hero raises to 29.67 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

Hero wins 3.16 BB


PokerStars - $2.28+$0.22|400/800 Ante 75 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 0.58 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (SB): 15.59 BB
BB: 12.55 BB (VPIP: 3.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
UTG: 9.07 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
UTG+1: 20.52 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 16.92 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 21)
CO: 18.51 BB (VPIP: 28.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 25)

7 players post ante of 0.09 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.16 BB) Hero has 7:diamond: Q:spade:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 15.49 BB and is all-in, BB calls 11.46 BB and is all-in

Flop: (25.57 BB, 2 players) 6:diamond: K:spade: 7:club:

Turn: (25.57 BB, 2 players) 3:heart:

River: (25.57 BB, 2 players) A:diamond:

Hero shows 7:diamond: Q:spade: (One Pair, Sevens) (Pre 40%, Flop 85%, Turn 84%)
BB shows 4:diamond: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 60%, Flop 15%, Turn 16%)
BB wins 25.57 BB
 
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it is a joke, right? i mean shoving utg preflop holding A5??? and then shoving Q7??? it doesn't look there is room for any further analysis, just wish luck
 
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For the first hand i had such a big stack. that the only hand i was worried about was the player with 12bb so i thought of it as my hand vs his and A5 is a good hand heads up, all the other short stacks i dont care about because im happy to gamble with them or take the blinds plus some could get desperate and put in king high ir something. But i dont know if its a good play or not. And i think the 2nd hand was bad play i guess i did it because he had a vp of 3% lol i guess if the stacks were a bit smaller it might have been ok given his vp?
 
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probably not a good shove in either case.

but I need more info.

is this a STT or a MTT?

while it's good that you are critically thinking about your ranges and their ranges given their stats, I think you are overvaluing the stats when you have a really low # of hands on your opponents.

I generally play pretty straightforward against opponents until I have at least 200 hands on them....until that point I give the stats a minor consideration. And I don't fully trust my stats until I have 500+ hands on somebody.

shoving with a hand like A5s has reverse implied odds. meaning you only get called when you are fairly crushed. So you'll frequently win the blinds which is fairly insignificant to your stack, and you'll occasionally double up an opponent. If you're on the bubble in a SnG with a huge chip lead like that, I think it's OK to apply the pressure because people are gonna fold extra tight tight even if they know what you're up to. but otherwise, there is little to gain.
 
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Both are awful. Poker isn't about gambling if you're serious about winning. Since you're looking for analysis.... I would guess you care about winning. In all 3 hands (one from other thread also) when u make this play.... If any player at the table calls... Before they flip their cards up, hero should be very unhappy. Most likely your going to see pocket pairs and bigger aces. A5 doesn't play well against that range... And Q7 will pretty much never be ahead against a typical calling range. Stop open shoving for more than 10BB
 
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Yes its 180 man and it was on the bubble or close to it. It was a blind steal attempt but kinda risky but no stack on the table could of hurt me. I think in some spots im too aggresive. That q7 looks horrible i dont know what i was thinking lol if i was shorter i would do it but yea but wont be doing that agiain for 12 bb.
 
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Both are awful. Poker isn't about gambling if you're serious about winning. Since you're looking for analysis.... I would guess you care about winning. In all 3 hands (one from other thread also) when u make this play.... If any player at the table calls... Before they flip their cards up, hero should be very unhappy. Most likely your going to see pocket pairs and bigger aces. A5 doesn't play well against that range... And Q7 will pretty much never be ahead against a typical calling range. Stop open shoving for more than 10BB

I agree with you on these 2 hands because there is still a player left to act who has 12bb.

in the hand from the other thread, effective stacks were only 8bb, even though hero had much more, so I think it was ok given he is tight.

It would be interesting in the A5 hand if the hero had 29bb and all the other players had around 3bb (which was the case except for the 1 stack of 12bb) then what would we recommend? if the table is playing tight and scared and we can risk ~3bb to win about 2bb with relative impunity and only risking 10% of our stack each time we do it.... I think it would be proper to push a wide range.

let's not forget effective stacks are only as big as the 2nd biggest stack that still has cards.

The other major consideration is "game flow" or the rhythm. How did he get 29bbs? Is it because he's been raising every single hand and sucking out? if that's the case then our image is trash and we don't have nearly as much fold equity as we might think. That's when I like to tighten up my range and start pushing a little tighter and now they're REALLY confused because they call you with A9 and you have AJ this time.
 
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first hand isn't really a very good shove, like where does it actually get us? we pick up 1.5bbs plus antes if everyone folds, but that makes basically no difference to our stack or stack position at the moment. when we're called here, we're always crushed, if you feel the need to shove in spots like this, fold the weaker ax type hands, and shove the stronger 87s type hands that are relatively safe when called, and play really well against literally any calling range.

it seems to me your shoving this because "i have an ace, i'm the big stack, therefore, i shove on you smaller guys" instead, think "i have a weak hand if someone behind me calls, we're shoving into the whole table, so more likely that someone has a hand, picking up the blinds here does not help my cause that much, therefore i fold."
 
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second hand min-raise/fold is by far the superior play here against a guy who looks like he could be a nit, we're not sure here, but it looks like he might be.

if he calls we have to play oop with a small SPR, if he shoves we just got away with that one cheaply. but most of the time he just folds and gives us chips, and you know whats great? theres no risk!!!! brilliant!
 
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If you want to play this way because you think it's fun, go for it. If you're telling yourself it's anywhere close to good poker, stop fooling yourself.
 
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If you want to play this way because you think it's fun, go for it. If you're telling yourself it's anywhere close to good poker, stop fooling yourself.

directed at me or the op?
 
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Lol...thats not the kind of poker that I thought I would see
 
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flipcoin, off... and probably isnt your day... dont risk all for it (just to stole blinds)... u was trying to stole the blinds right? common..
 
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flipcoin, off... and probably isnt your day... dont risk all for it (just to stole blinds)... u was trying to stole the blinds right? common..

No both these spots r pretty bad. He could steal the blinds by betting 3 BB.... No need to just jam it in
 
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lol,it must be a joke.shove any 2 cards in any position with 30 BB and 15 BB.i think no further analysis here.try to have a good reason when you shove.i think here you dont have any good reason for that
 
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