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rebuy tournaments at pokerstars with a buy-in from $ 3.30 + R NL Hold'em held every day .. I'm going to play these tournaments on a regular basis, I would like to hear your opinion on these tournaments, what is your strategy? what tactics in such tournaments do you use?
 
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Thats a good question i would like to read what responses you get for this as i would like to know too.
 
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First thing you do.....an immediate rebuy.
Be prepared to be confronted with loads of loose shoves and all-in calls.
It's up to you how to deal with that.
I'd say be prepared to do some rebuys, once you'll catch some and double-or even tripple up.
Well that's where you wanna be, because after an hour the rebuy period ends, you'll add on and from than you'll see lots of players tighten up.
With a nice stack you will be able to abuse that.
However, be careful with players who aare not able to switch from rebuy play to normal play after the add on.

Well, probably a bit general info.
Most important, it's a rebuy, you start doing a rebuy and have to be prepared to do double rebuys several times.
 
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from here the question arises, why not take advantage of such loose players, you can also sit tight and play with the premium cards ... as our range of hands will be ahead of our opponents, or is not correct all the same?
 
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I don't have much experience of the $3 one but I've played the Daily Dollar a fair few times and final tabled it a couple times too. For me, I sit super tight in the rebuy period and rebuy before the tournament starts. 3k starting stack and when u walk into another player with a big stack, you're getting the maximum. My range is pretty much limping small PPs, hit your set and value bet away, raising big ones, obviously you want to get hands like AA/KK/QQ All in Pre Flop and try and double through because people will call with trash. Apart from that I'm only really playing AK/AQ and maybe AJs and KQs in late position. Most of the marginal hands like A9, KJ ,JTs you'll wanna throw away because you rarely get to see cheap flops. If you can get to around 8-10k then take the add-on, you'll have a good stack to be going on with.

Watch out for the people who play like a maniac before the rebuy period is over and slow down after the rebuy period. You'll notice a big change.
 
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Read about an interesting strategy game with unlimited Rebuys: The players agree and massively raise all-in on each deposit. Imagine, say, 6 people agree, the first deposit purchased additionally and moved all-in. Someone eventually will have twelvefold stack! Rebuy, yet all-in, and someone is already six-stack. So that's played a few rounds, until all the contracting parties have a substantial stack.
 
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What happens if the guy who hit his hand first and has the 6x stack keeps winning? Also, isn't that collusion?!
 
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and if the situation is ... all in the course of this conspiracy, and the guy who won the first will not play as long as the stacks opponents catch up

I think a good strategy .. but here it is necessary that all players are honest players. especially the first who will win =)
 
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i played it several time, made it deep once, made like 100$ or so. it will be crazy at first, so keep tight, and if you get a good hand, AA KK QQ, you will easily get called if you shove prefop, you might double or triple up, or get sucked out on, who knows.
 
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Adjust to your normal strategy when you are down to one re-buy.

Go all-in with any pair if only limpers or all folders came in before the flop. Call any raise up to 8x the big blind, otherwise fold.
Go all-in with any 2 cards that are paint before the flop unless there is a 6x raise in front of you, otherwise fold.
Raise 4x with any Ace if no raises in front of you, otherwise fold.
Call with any Ax suited as long as the raise is less that 50% of your chips.

After the end of the re-buy period there will be an add-on period. Take advantage of this unless you have so many chips that you don’t need the add-on. As a general rule, if the add-on will give you less that 10% of your chips or if no-one can pass you as the chip leader then do not add-on. If you can become the chip leader or if adding on will increase your chip stack more than 10%, then go ahead and add-on.

I think it's a loose game strategy
. but it allows you to count on the high places of the tournament
 
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Adjust to your normal strategy when you are down to one re-buy.

You are never down to just one re-buy unless it is self-imposed - and even if you are just going to allow yourself one more no need to adjust your strategy.

Go all-in with any pair if only limpers or all folders came in before the flop. Call any raise up to 8x the big blind, otherwise fold.

This is wayyyyyy too general. You can never pre-determine your action like this - there are other factors such as stack size that have to be considered - even if it is a re-buy. 8x the bb could be dumb if you are only leaving a few chips behind.

Go all-in with any 2 cards that are paint before the flop unless there is a 6x raise in front of you, otherwise fold.

This is really bad advice. :eek:

Raise 4x with any Ace if no raises in front of you, otherwise fold.

You can not pre-determine how you are going to raise every time without looking at other factors like stack sizes, position and how others are playing at the table.

Call with any Ax suited as long as the raise is less that 50% of your chips.

Horrible advice - sorry. You are going to call a raise for 40% of your stack with A2s in middles position????

After the end of the re-buy period there will be an add-on period. Take advantage of this unless you have so many chips that you don’t need the add-on. As a general rule, if the add-on will give you less that 10% of your chips or if no-one can pass you as the chip leader then do not add-on. If you can become the chip leader or if adding on will increase your chip stack more than 10%, then go ahead and add-on.

As a hardcore rule - ALWAYS add-on regardless of your stack

I think it's a loose game strategy
. but it allows you to count on the high places of the tournament

You should play some $1r and practice before hitting the $3r's. :)
 
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Well it's too loose a game, I do not deny this, you can just change the range of hands and will be something that we should
but at the same time, plus a strategy that can win the top place in the tournament as a result
 
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First thing you do.....an immediate rebuy.
Be prepared to be confronted with loads of loose shoves and all-in calls.
It's up to you how to deal with that.
I'd say be prepared to do some rebuys, once you'll catch some and double-or even tripple up.
Well that's where you wanna be, because after an hour the rebuy period ends, you'll add on and from than you'll see lots of players tighten up.
With a nice stack you will be able to abuse that.
However, be careful with players who aare not able to switch from rebuy play to normal play after the add on.

Well, probably a bit general info.
Most important, it's a rebuy, you start doing a rebuy and have to be prepared to do double rebuys several times.
I really do think this makes very little sense, i dont understand why you would re-buy at all, everytime you re-buy your going against players with bigger and bigger stacks, puting yourself further and further behind for the same money it would take to just enter another one where everybody is even again. They run all day.
 
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I really do think this makes very little sense, i dont understand why you would re-buy at all, everytime you re-buy your going against players with bigger and bigger stacks, puting yourself further and further behind for the same money it would take to just enter another one where everybody is even again. They run all day.

If you think like this then you shouldn't play re-buys at all.

I am almost getting to the point where re-buys are all I like to play. You can get to the money with such deep stacks - and the payouts are fantastic due to all the fish who don't know how to play re-buys - and those who do know how but end up with multiple re-buys. :p
 
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Is it better to play re-buy mtt or the normal ones?
 
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Read about an interesting strategy game with unlimited Rebuys: The players agree and massively raise all-in on each deposit. Imagine, say, 6 people agree, the first deposit purchased additionally and moved all-in. Someone eventually will have twelvefold stack! Rebuy, yet all-in, and someone is already six-stack. So that's played a few rounds, until all the contracting parties have a substantial stack.

What happens if the guy who hit his hand first and has the 6x stack keeps winning? Also, isn't that collusion?!
Yes that IS collusion, if it was arranged. And not very feasible, since it is a MTT and seating cannot be planned, and any chat about doing that would result most probably in banning the player(s) making that suggestion.

As has been mentioned, re-buys have their own strategy and approach. If you dont understand what that means, dont play them until. Simple really.

One of the first things you need to do is not look at a, say 3$ RB, as a 3$ game. Plan on at least 2 re-buys and the add-on, so look at it as a $12 game. You may only need to re-buy once, you may do it more than twice- You should also not go too crazy with your re-buys IMO. But remember that all those chips are still out there to be gotten, so if you are a decent player you should be able to exploit a lot of the crazy chip spewers in early stages with larges stacks, and having enough chips to make stacking off against the loose large stacked luck boxes is one of the major pleasures of a re-buy.
 
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Is it better to play re-buy mtt or the normal ones?

It really depends on your playing style. My strengths are in a deep stack - so I love the extra chips and the inflated prize pool in re-buys is fantastic.

As has been mentioned, re-buys have their own strategy and approach. If you dont understand what that means, dont play them until. Simple really.

One of the first things you need to do is not look at a, say 3$ RB, as a 3$ game. Plan on at least 2 re-buys and the add-on, so look at it as a $12 game. You may only need to re-buy once, you may do it more than twice- You should also not go too crazy with your re-buys IMO. But remember that all those chips are still out there to be gotten, so if you are a decent player you should be able to exploit a lot of the crazy chip spewers in early stages with larges stacks, and having enough chips to make stacking off against the loose large stacked luck boxes is one of the major pleasures of a re-buy.

You probably should allow for more re-buys than that - if you only double re-buy once a $3.30 buy-in becomes a $15.30 buy-in. I would at least expect to buy-in that much.
 
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If you think like this then you shouldn't play re-buys at all.

I am almost getting to the point where re-buys are all I like to play. You can get to the money with such deep stacks - and the payouts are fantastic due to all the fish who don't know how to play re-buys - and those who do know how but end up with multiple re-buys. :p
Still not understanding the logic, maybe you can explain it to me.

I am new to these, so keep that in mind, but seems to me it makes more sense not to re-buy as when you re-buy you have to have less chance as you are going against much larger stacks. Obviously if you dont re-buy you have little chance of a profit from a single tournament, however from what i can tell a lot of people will double re-buy a couple times, and then add on, so they are investing at least 5 times what you are every time.

Does it not make more sense to enter a new tournament with a potentially massive profit if you catch a hand early and win one of the multi all ins before going on to place? as said im new to these but played maybe 10-15 of them before taking $182 for i think 4th, and what really could/should have been over 500 for 1st (pre flop all in, aces vs kings suck out). I figured the players who are all in with anything and multi re-buying are just bumping the prize pool.
 
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Still not understanding the logic, maybe you can explain it to me.

I am new to these, so keep that in mind, but seems to me it makes more sense not to re-buy as when you re-buy you have to have less chance as you are going against much larger stacks. Obviously if you dont re-buy you have little chance of a profit from a single tournament, however from what i can tell a lot of people will double re-buy a couple times, and then add on, so they are investing at least 5 times what you are every time.

Does it not make more sense to enter a new tournament with a potentially massive profit if you catch a hand early and win one of the multi all ins before going on to place? as said im new to these but played maybe 10-15 of them before taking $182 for i think 4th, and what really could/should have been over 500 for 1st (pre flop all in, aces vs kings suck out). I figured the players who are all in with anything and multi re-buying are just bumping the prize pool.

I will try my best to explain it - though I don't have the best way with words on these things lol.

The more chips you have the more opportunities you have to make moves to gain more chips. You can also get all-in more often against the players who did not re-buy and you will still be in the game if you lose. The times you win these and add all those chips to your stack are worth the times you lose them.

Anytime you can add chips to your stack it is +EV. The number of bb's you have totally dictates what action you can take. You don't want to be in a situation where multiple people have 2-3 times the chips you have. They will constantly abuse you - just as you would be doing to short stacks if you had the chips.

Your goal in these is the final table - or even the top 4-5. In re-buys the payouts are so good that you don't even have to win it to have a great payday.

Here is a great example for you. I recently starting playing the $75k $11 R/A. I have played in it 5 times and here are my results:
  1. Made initial re-buy, 1 double re-buy and the add-on. Invested $51 and finished 4th for $5944.13.
  2. Made initial re-buy and add-on. Invested $31 and finished 332nd for $75.32.
  3. Made initial re-buy, 1 double re-buy and the add-on. Invested $51 and finished 350th for $62.53.
  4. Made initial re-buy and add-on. Invested $31 and no cash.
  5. Made initial re-buy and add-on. Invested $31 and no cash.
If I had not done the double re-buy in the first tournament there would never have been an almost $6k cash. I have cashed 3 out of 5 times - and 2 of those I had to double re-buy. The 2 smaller cashes are enough to cover a few more of these buy-ins.

Out of 5 I have only had to double re-buy twice - but took the same risks in the other 3 and won. I am not an extremely loose player - but I need a chip advantage as often as possible and will never pass up an opportunity to buy more chips.

I hope that helps.
 
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whether to take rebuys and addons? Definitely - worth it. Experts recommend at least have the funds for five additional money purchasing fees (if the number of rebuys is not limited). If you have money to dokupki not - play Freezeout. That is, once a year, you're lucky, you can at the very beginning of the game to build up the stack and get into the prizes, but in most cases you will very quickly from the tournament will take off. The game within the first hour is usually very loose and aggressive, frequent all-ins. If you do not participate in them, you just lose all the blinds, if you will - then the very high risk of loss, even if you have the advantage that the probability will often be in the region of 50 to 50, and a lot of Coin-flips in a row is unlikely to win. As for addons, the simplified rule of thumb: always take your addon! The goal of every player - to have a maximum stack, which would "crush" opponents, and greatly increases the chances of winning. Taking the addon, you build your stack and closer to that goal. But in principle there can be exceptions: if at the end of the first hour of your stack is much larger than any of the competitors if the addon will add only a few percent of your stack, you can save money, the benefits of dokupki will be small, but this situation in practice will be quite rare.
 
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I am not a fan of Re-buy tournies. I like when your out, your out, game over! I feel very seldom you place ITM after you Re-buy, I've never had it happen to me. But that could just be my play, but don't like them personally!
 
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The statistics you draw in the HUD for MTT ?
 
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I bring more articles such as think there is too much
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