Originally Posted by Salty Mouse
They seem gimmicky to me and generally not rewarding of good players and good play.
Do you avoid them as a rule? Play them and change your strategy? How?
Rebuy tournaments are a huge EV edge to the better players. 100+BB stacks are not uncommon and there are plenty of fish who will spew their big stacks. Generally better players are better with bigger stacks, and it allows them to wait and play solid and pick off the bad players strategically, without getting blinded down to push/fold mode early.
However, you need to be properly rolled to commit a significant number of rebuys. See below.
Originally Posted by thebigdawg
I usually just play on my original BI, if I make it to the break I use the add-on.
No offense, but I'm going to be honest here. You are dead/scared money adding to my equity pool in that tourny. You are at a HUGE disadvantage and shouldn't play these types of tournies as they are a bad value for you. on one bullet, you will be pushed off marginal hands that yo ushould be gambling with. Also, any good player will notice who is playing without the initial rebuy, and immediately know they are bad.
Why? Because you are not maximizing your chances.
Originally Posted by JMTalbert
My prefered way to play is to buy in once and make the most of it. I would like for that to be my only investment in the tournament. If you get busted out, but want to play, you can rebuy and maybe rebuy for double. The problem is now you have 3x buy ins invested. You need to cash now!
I would suggest not rebuying more than once. You will be on tilt and have invested too much to make it up without going pretty far. Just take a break or go play a different game for a while.
The add on is a good deal relative to your initial buy in. Usually 2000 chips when the buy in was 1500. Typically 20BB when it happens. It is usually worth taking, unless you have a very big or very small stack.
More dead money. And ALWAYS addon. ALWAYS
You need to budget somewhere between the initial buyin + addon to around 10 rebuys (5 reloads @ 2 rebs each if you get felted). I usually think of a 3r as playing a $24 tourny. As long as I average $24 over time in these i'm within my buyin guideline. If I spend 9 bucks, that's great. If I spend $40 that's fine too. But I plan for this going in.
JMT is looking at this wrong. If you tilt from busting your initial buyin plus rebuy, don't play this tourny. Play a freezeout.
Expect to gamble when it's a gambly table and you will have to reload a few times. The beauty of this is that often those chips come right back to you from the same guy that took them away. (Whoa is me to get a crazy start table loaded with chips and get moved before I get a chance to get them.)
Here's the other reason you guys are dead money and rebuys are so profitable. Look how many people drop out pre-addon. That is all free equity to anyone still in the game. And it's often a ridiculous number of people and dollars.
Originally Posted by Pascal LeFiscal
If you're going to play a rebuy, it's +ev to always double rebuy and to invest more than 1 shot in it.
Pascal gets it.
Rule: Always rebuy immediately before the first hand. Nothing like having a 2k stack open shove and a 2k caller and you are sitting on 1k with AA in the BB the very first hand. That mistake costs you when you hold. you have a 3k stack, not a 6k stack.
Budget multi-rebuys and gamble if its a gambly table. Push small edges.
Exceptions? Satties. If it's a $10r to a $109 seat, buying in 20 times makes no sense.