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Friends, I would like to know what you would do in the following situation:
In an important MTT, buy-in much above your bankroll (achieved by satellite, no option to revert to $$)Exactly in the bubble, with low stack but not yet so short (say a 4 to 5 players in worse conditions).
Considerable pool Prize, having already survived a monster field.
You get AA in BB.
The CL goes all-in UTG and the table folds up to you. and now?
 
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I can not fold AA in HU.
 
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It depends on the villain stack, in the bubble high stacks tend to prey on the minors without good hands, but AA I pushed everything.

 
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I have played being the big stack, the little stack etc...on bubble play. I have lost and won in both scenarios. It's like driving a car and someone blows through an intersection heading for you. How you feel after this goes down will make it worth it or not. Losing is very, very hard to reconcile. So...do whatever it takes to survive and win. You will feel better in my opinion.
 
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It depends on your goal. If you are trying to get to the lead you can not miss such a chance and you should call.



If you think that you will make it to the money with your current stack and the money you will get will be good enough prize for you you can fold here. Situation you describe looks like this as described. If that is your approach though i would just sitout and watch till i get to the money before playing again.
 
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I think i understood what your are trying to ask here as i was in a similar situation, won the high roll ticket and had only a couple of bucks in my br left. However i was dealt a KK on the bubble but i wasn’t ready to risk it all and decided to fold in order to make itm and top up my br. To be frank i would do the same with aces, i would fold that hand if getting itm is what i really need in situation like this.
 
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Friends, I would like to know what you would do in the following situation:
In an important MTT, buy-in much above your bankroll (achieved by satellite, no option to revert to $$)Exactly in the bubble, with low stack but not yet so short (say a 4 to 5 players in worse conditions).
Considerable pool Prize, having already survived a monster field.
You get AA in BB.
The CL goes all-in UTG and the table folds up to you. and now?

I wait for the prizes before being left out, and then I try to recover chips
 
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I understand the thought of folding, we've all had AA cracked by about every hand and it is a possibility. I certainly wouldn't fold for two reasons.

1. I'm trying to make as much as I can. Once you pass the bubble people start to drop like flies. Lets get as many chips as possible.


2. While the knee jerk is to let "someone else" bust out this doesn't always work. I've played in tournaments that the short stacks (more than 1) survived 2 or 3 all ins dragging out the bubble.


I think I could fold most hands in that position and let some people bust before me, but AA and KK aren't one of them. If you have me beat, good hand, but I'm not folding, what other hand are you waiting for?
 
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It is a all-in push for me without question. Not much thinking involve if you want to continue playing with any size stack at all.
 
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For me there's no way to fold here.I give a call easily.It doesn't matter what happens.
 
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In an important MTT, buy-in much above your bankroll (achieved by satellite, no option to revert to $$)Exactly in the bubble, with low stack but not yet so short (say a 4 to 5 players in worse conditions). Considerable pool Prize, having already survived a monster field. You get AA in BB. The CL goes all-in UTG and the table folds up to you. and now?
Only you can answer this question for yourself. Following are some ideas of questions to ask yourself when in this scenario:

  1. What is the UTG raising with here? Has UTG done this raise before as the chip leader? If yes, did you see his cards?
  2. If you fold, are you sure that you could make the money? Are the other 4-5 players in worse condition far below you chips? Will you regret folding if the 4-5 players catch hands and you become last in chips?
  3. What hand would you call an all-in with? You are in a heads-up situation.
I personally am not folding there. I understand that the buy-in was a satellite. I understand that cashing would mean a lot to the bankroll. Its tough to get a bad beat, but AA is winning 80% of the time. Winning this hand would likely put a lock on cashing (though not guaranteed) and most likely provide enough chips to be able to play a strategical game instead of a shove/fold game in the next level or two so perhaps you could make even more $$. With AA I'm calling the UTG shove 100% of the time in a HeadsUp scenario.

Good luck!
 
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Aces are too strong to fold here. Maybe you could consider folding Kings but in the long run I think this would be a losing play. You can't fold when you have 82-85% equity. You're just too much of a favourite. But it really depends on the relative stack sizes. If you're on the bubble and there's a Microstack about to be blinded out and you have a lot of chips, then you can probably fold AA against a shove from another big stack who can cripple you, but the short stack needs to be almost gone in order for that fold to be reasonable. AA crushes almost 100% of every range it faces. Kings lose a chunk of their strength facing ranges like 1-2% but the Aces are unaffected. Get the money in.​
 
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Personally I wouldn't fold AA in that spot. Maybe I am wrong but I see it only as a great chance to double up and have a better possibility to go deep in the tournament. I've seen a lot of badbeats in these spots for small stacks but I would take that risk
 
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Never fold here , I understand that the min cash in a bigger buy in tournament means a lot for your bankroll but my mindset of the game dictates me to snap call it. I will trust the math here.

Imagine how lightly the CL open shoves in order to collect all the dead money in the middle without any post flop play!
 
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