riverboatrat
Visionary
Silver Level
Here is a riddle from a game I played earlier.
I've been seeing poker through very differnt eyes lately, and working on strategies. Here's one that when I saw what was happening I had to take advantage of the situation.
Some background information, this was on the bubble for cash and final table, 2 tables left with 5 players each.
Look at my stack compared to everyone else. The average stack at the time was 27000.
Here are 2 hands where I softplayed. In 1, I folded from the SB with a pair against a crippled stack in the BB and the other I just called and checked to the river with a monster.
I did this deliberately. My logic for this will be explained later. There is a very logical explanation for why I did this. Many people will probably disagree with my reasons, however they are very valid.
There was a real strategic advantage as to why I did this and I would like to see if anyone can figure it out.
Why ?
Why did I do this when I could have knocked out both players and collected $4 in bounties in the process.
The person with the best answer will receive $10 in their full tilt account.
Hint: It has nothing to do with chip dumping or trying to help a friend get to the final table. I do not know these people, have never met them and never will.
Also in the hand involving the kings I am aware there was a possible straight looming, that had nothng to do with why I didn't bet out.
Here are the hand histories.
full tilt poker Game : $10 + $1 KO Sit & Go Table 10 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 2: postman7 (3,944)
Seat 3: cmtol (11,340)
Seat 4: spike800 (13,025)
Seat 5: Neverborn (8,684)
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (53,412)
postman7 antes 150
cmtol antes 150
spike800 antes 150
Neverborn antes 150
RiverBoatRat antes 150
RiverBoatRat posts the small blind of 600
postman7 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RiverBoatRat [6c] [6s]
cmtol folds
spike800 folds
Neverborn folds
RiverBoatRat folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to postman7
postman7 mucks
postman7 wins the pot (1,950)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,950 | Rake 0
Seat 2: postman7 (big blind) collected (1,950), mucked
Seat 3: cmtol folded before the Flop
Seat 4: spike800 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Neverborn (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt poker game $10 + $1 KO Sit & Go Table 10 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 2: postman7 (4,094)
Seat 3: cmtol (11,490)
Seat 4: spike800 (10,625)
Seat 5: Neverborn (9,434)
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (54,762)
postman7 antes 150
cmtol antes 150
spike800 antes 150
Neverborn antes 150
RiverBoatRat antes 150
Neverborn posts the small blind of 600
RiverBoatRat posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RiverBoatRat [Kc] [Ks]
postman7 folds
cmtol folds
spike800 raises to 3,600
Neverborn folds
RiverBoatRat calls 2,400
*** FLOP *** [8h] [9s] [Qh]
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** TURN *** [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s]
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** RIVER *** [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s] [9d]
RiverBoatRat has 15 seconds left to act
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
spike800 shows [Ad] [8d] two pair, Nines and Eights
RiverBoatRat shows [Kc] [Ks] two pair, Kings and Nines
RiverBoatRat wins the pot (8,550) with two pair, Queens and Nines
The blinds are now 800/1,600 with an ante of 200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,550 | Rake 0
Board: [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s] [9d]
Seat 2: postman7 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: cmtol folded before the Flop
Seat 4: spike800 (button) showed [Ad] [8d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 5: Neverborn (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (big blind) showed [Kc] [Ks] and won (8,550) with two pair, Kings and Nines
I've been seeing poker through very differnt eyes lately, and working on strategies. Here's one that when I saw what was happening I had to take advantage of the situation.
Some background information, this was on the bubble for cash and final table, 2 tables left with 5 players each.
Look at my stack compared to everyone else. The average stack at the time was 27000.
Here are 2 hands where I softplayed. In 1, I folded from the SB with a pair against a crippled stack in the BB and the other I just called and checked to the river with a monster.
I did this deliberately. My logic for this will be explained later. There is a very logical explanation for why I did this. Many people will probably disagree with my reasons, however they are very valid.
There was a real strategic advantage as to why I did this and I would like to see if anyone can figure it out.
Why ?
Why did I do this when I could have knocked out both players and collected $4 in bounties in the process.
The person with the best answer will receive $10 in their full tilt account.
Hint: It has nothing to do with chip dumping or trying to help a friend get to the final table. I do not know these people, have never met them and never will.
Also in the hand involving the kings I am aware there was a possible straight looming, that had nothng to do with why I didn't bet out.
Here are the hand histories.
full tilt poker Game : $10 + $1 KO Sit & Go Table 10 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 2: postman7 (3,944)
Seat 3: cmtol (11,340)
Seat 4: spike800 (13,025)
Seat 5: Neverborn (8,684)
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (53,412)
postman7 antes 150
cmtol antes 150
spike800 antes 150
Neverborn antes 150
RiverBoatRat antes 150
RiverBoatRat posts the small blind of 600
postman7 posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RiverBoatRat [6c] [6s]
cmtol folds
spike800 folds
Neverborn folds
RiverBoatRat folds
Uncalled bet of 600 returned to postman7
postman7 mucks
postman7 wins the pot (1,950)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,950 | Rake 0
Seat 2: postman7 (big blind) collected (1,950), mucked
Seat 3: cmtol folded before the Flop
Seat 4: spike800 folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Neverborn (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (small blind) folded before the Flop
Full Tilt poker game $10 + $1 KO Sit & Go Table 10 - 600/1200 Ante 150 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 2: postman7 (4,094)
Seat 3: cmtol (11,490)
Seat 4: spike800 (10,625)
Seat 5: Neverborn (9,434)
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (54,762)
postman7 antes 150
cmtol antes 150
spike800 antes 150
Neverborn antes 150
RiverBoatRat antes 150
Neverborn posts the small blind of 600
RiverBoatRat posts the big blind of 1,200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RiverBoatRat [Kc] [Ks]
postman7 folds
cmtol folds
spike800 raises to 3,600
Neverborn folds
RiverBoatRat calls 2,400
*** FLOP *** [8h] [9s] [Qh]
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** TURN *** [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s]
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** RIVER *** [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s] [9d]
RiverBoatRat has 15 seconds left to act
RiverBoatRat checks
spike800 checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
spike800 shows [Ad] [8d] two pair, Nines and Eights
RiverBoatRat shows [Kc] [Ks] two pair, Kings and Nines
RiverBoatRat wins the pot (8,550) with two pair, Queens and Nines
The blinds are now 800/1,600 with an ante of 200
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8,550 | Rake 0
Board: [8h] [9s] [Qh] [7s] [9d]
Seat 2: postman7 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: cmtol folded before the Flop
Seat 4: spike800 (button) showed [Ad] [8d] and lost with two pair, Nines and Eights
Seat 5: Neverborn (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: RiverBoatRat (big blind) showed [Kc] [Ks] and won (8,550) with two pair, Kings and Nines
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