Quick and easy way to calculate poker odds?

Marcwantstowin · Dec 24, 2017

There is one thing I have always asked myself when playing a tournament....Is there a quick way of calculating odds?

I know that certain hands, and the possibility of hitting them, say 8/1 for trips, on the flop, etc? But I am sure there must be a way of quickly doing it? And if there is, does it take into account stack sizes? Does it take into account GTO?

My thoughts on this all depends on your "range" and assessing others "ranges" too. Knowing the way to calculate odds, is very important to me, so I have memorised a lot of odds, but surely there may be a way of doing it quickly, say when there are 3 players in the hand, you hold top pair, but a low kicker, can I quickly calculate the odds, of my opponents having top pair, but higher kicker? Can you help me?

Anatoliy Tolik · Dec 24, 2017

You are screaming out.
1-3 outs x 2 =%
3-11 outs x 2 + 1 =% drop the required map
from 12 outs x2 + 2 =%
The calculation goes to 1 street
bank size / (bank size + size of stake) = bank's chances
counted

AlexGrinStar · Dec 25, 2017

hmm ... this is quite a complicated question ...

"My thoughts on this all depends on your "range" and assessing others "ranges" too. Knowing the way to calculate odds, is very important to me, so I have memorised a lot of odds, but surely there may be a way of doing it quickly, say when there are 3 players in the hand, you hold top pair, but a low kicker, can I quickly calculate the odds, of my opponents having top pair, but higher kicker? Can you help me?"

here you can only make a subjective assessment... if you play more loose, and your opponent is more tight, then he will often have a better hand, you will often be under domination... it's all logical))
just do not play A3о in the 3-way pot and you will not worry about it)

I very much doubt that there is a really quick way to calculate this ... account stack sizes... account GTO... it will all be rather troublesome))

Helloween · Dec 25, 2017

These probabilities can only be used for long distances. If you play a lot, then learn how to quickly calculate them in your mind.

Cazador twd · Dec 26, 2017

I understand the easiest and fastest way to calculate the probability of your hand is the rule of 4y2

popstani · Dec 27, 2017

Odds and % are important, but more important is the way how your opponent play,wach and play according to that. If he is tight you lose up your game, if he is lose you wait good hand and he’s chips will be yours. It’s marathon, not a sprint race, make some strategi of you own, and make good decisions. Good luck on the tables

laiomaycon · Jan 4, 2018

For percentage

I always work with percentage before the flop. if I have cards connected together I do 1 by 8 and without a flush I increase by 2 by 8. When I have pairs I decline the possibilities for a crack or full hause or block. probility to lower when there is a pair that can be revealing when you have many bluffs of one person. everything has to be analyzed in addition to the percentage.

schtiuky · Jan 4, 2018

Yf you dont put the oponent to a specific hand just go with 4x and 2x method then put the other percentege on your opponent.

miric007 · Jan 5, 2018

Anatoliy Tolik said:
You are screaming out.
1-3 outs x 2 =%
3-11 outs x 2 + 1 =% drop the required map
from 12 outs x2 + 2 =%
The calculation goes to 1 street
bank size / (bank size + size of stake) = bank's chances
counted

Thanks for the information! I did not know this now to account for percentage. Thanks again

milencenov · Jan 6, 2018

Marcwantstowin said:
There is one thing I have always asked myself when playing a tournament....Is there a quick way of calculating odds?

I know that certain hands, and the possibility of hitting them, say 8/1 for trips, on the flop, etc? But I am sure there must be a way of quickly doing it? And if there is, does it take into account stack sizes? Does it take into account GTO?

My thoughts on this all depends on your "range" and assessing others "ranges" too. Knowing the way to calculate odds, is very important to me, so I have memorised a lot of odds, but surely there may be a way of doing it quickly, say when there are 3 players in the hand, you hold top pair, but a low kicker, can I quickly calculate the odds, of my opponents having top pair, but higher kicker? Can you help me?

Marc, there is a way for quick calculation.

But you are mixing concepts here.

The odds to just flop certain hands - one concept.

The odds to win with a specific hand against a specific hand (or range) - this is another concept.

The chances to flop 2 pair or better hand with non-paired unsuited cards are 2%.

The chances to flop 8-out straight draw or made straight are:

JT-54 (connected) : 10.9%
J9-64 (1-gap): 7.9%
J8-74 (2-gap): 5.5%

Then for each card up or down from these middle ones you lose some, thus QJ or 43 is only about 7.4%, KQ or 32 is only 3.7%, and AK or A2 is only 0.3%. Same for the 1-gaps and 2-gaps.

As a rule of thumb, accept average chance of 9% for connectors, 6% for 1-gappers and 3% for 2-gappers.

The chance to flop flush draw with suited cards is 11.7% (and this includes 0.8% for flopping a made flush).

Basically, this is the science about non-paired hole cards.

For pocket pairs, you already wrote the basic thing - the chance to flop a set.

The chance to flop full house or quads is so small that it does not really influence the decisions we take about "set mining" with pocket pairs...

Jardel Barros · Jan 7, 2018

complicated situation

calculating fast is a consequence of practice and experience that is being improved over time in the game. Having a ready-made recipe is tricky because it requires balance mainly in situations where aggressive players play all in the pre-flop

miamia · Jan 8, 2018

milencenov said:
Marc, there is a way for quick calculation.

But you are mixing concepts here.

The odds to just flop certain hands - one concept.

The odds to win with a specific hand against a specific hand (or range) - this is another concept.

The chances to flop 2 pair or better hand with non-paired unsuited cards are 2%.

The chances to flop 8-out straight draw or made straight are:

JT-54 (connected) : 10.9%
J9-64 (1-gap): 7.9%
J8-74 (2-gap): 5.5%

Then for each card up or down from these middle ones you lose some, thus QJ or 43 is only about 7.4%, KQ or 32 is only 3.7%, and AK or A2 is only 0.3%. Same for the 1-gaps and 2-gaps.

As a rule of thumb, accept average chance of 9% for connectors, 6% for 1-gappers and 3% for 2-gappers.

The chance to flop flush draw with suited cards is 11.7% (and this includes 0.8% for flopping a made flush).

Basically, this is the science about non-paired hole cards.

For pocket pairs, you already wrote the basic thing - the chance to flop a set.

The chance to flop full house or quads is so small that it does not really influence the decisions we take about "set mining" with pocket pairs...

You think on pot odds and than you calculate for hand odds...right !

milencenov · Jan 9, 2018

miamia said:
You think on pot odds and than you calculate for hand odds...right !

NOT true ! Nowhere in my post I ever used the word "pot" whle referring to the odds to hit certain types of hands.

And please, see the opening post of this thread - I am directly answering to some questions set my Marc.

Sorin Iliescu · Jan 9, 2018

if i play online, i use the calculator for pot odds and i estimate the hand odds. i haven't played live yet, but i guess you have more time there to make the calculations

Rvstam · Jan 11, 2018

no theory and no strategy works. if it worked a person would himself win the tournament. all these strategies, books, calculators, and other nonsense - that you would sell this and earn money. understand this

jhunnyorcruz · Jan 16, 2018

Learn how to calculate them in your mind

nera75 · Jan 19, 2018

game at home on the computer everything is clear automatically visible which stack, what bank, tell me, can anyone know how best, when playing live, consider the size of the bank and what stake do?

Maksat · Jan 25, 2018

except for calculation and analysis, the player must still feel the opponent

RedGnom · Jan 25, 2018

Sometimes i fall back on odds calculation table taken from one of the book of the poker math. After a while, through the use of this table, you will be able to figure out in advance the odds while playing the hands without thinking with one's brain on autopilot.

Vadim Gurov · Jan 28, 2018

nuce calculate

WPattaro · Jan 31, 2018

odds

In the calculation of probabilities, assuming that I'm out of position, the red discharge and asked the two chains end, just missed the river, the all-in is valid and we are in a table 9

damgold · Feb 9, 2018

It is simple to do the amount of outs x2 +2 the result will be the percentage of times you will win with those cards.

UberKadet · Feb 11, 2018

what would be the best way to calculate odds on the fly... currently im using bol calculator and just started with cardschat calculator App... both are great for online poker but when im playing live games i cant use an app and want to start doing it on the fly. what would be a good way to approach it? thanks

Neol0107 · Feb 13, 2018

My thinking about this is simply to see your stad, your position, and your cards, so the percentage of rank varies

Max Diver · Feb 14, 2018

You need to play, play and practice all the time. Calculate in your mind. Soon you get quick enough and more precise.

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