Question about transitioning from SNGs to Tourneys

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I'd like to try to play more Tourneys and I'm just curious as to the differences between single table sngs/shootouts versus tourneys and how to adjust my strategy. I've found myself very successful in the single table SNGs. I.E. I've been placing in the top 1-2 of the matrix's for all the matrix's I've played in the last 2 weeks. Plus, in the shootouts I've played, the only reason I've lost them is because of a suckout. PWND! And, pokerprolabs gives me a K5 star in SNGs, but only a K2 star in tourneys. So, I think I've gotten some sort of handle on how to play the single table SNG. But, I really need help in my tourney game. Does anyone have any tips on how to improve going from SNGs to tourneys?
 
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imo, i dont really think youve played enough sng to truly know if your a winning player...

and to add to taht.. i think matrix tourneys are a waste of time... you cant multitable them(unless your a superfreak who can play 50+ tables at a time :D)

without knowing how you play, i cant be any help... apart from a basic strategy, which im sure is on the forums somewhere... search it..
 
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Okay, change it to say someone is more successful in sngs then tourneys. What are some changes you need to make in order to make the transition between SNGs and tourneys?
 
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For me playing tighter the first few rounds of blinds to get a handle on players. You can steal few hands around the bubble. Once in the money play what has given you success in SnG's.
 
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I've got a nice 40+ page guide but it's a bit too lengthy to put on here.
Your question is kinda broad & far-reaching so I don't feel like I can make a simplified answer to it.
Generally speaking, you want to stay ahead of the blinds (preferably with a workable stack of 30+bb's,... which again depends upon what type of structure the tourney has that you're referring to..... a 1500chip donkament is another story).
Adjust your play according to your stack size in relation to the blinds, in relation to the stack sizes of the other players on your table & their playing styles.
Stack size adjustments (your own stack that is)... with <12bb's you're basically looking to open-shove (but it'd be best to at least have an idea... or a look at a +EV shoving chart so you know what you can profitably push with from diff positions on table). 14-22bb this is basically a re-steal sized stack, you don't really want to raise/fold pre with a stack of this size (although you'll see it all the time by randoms.... especially don't ever raise fold if you're like <14bb's). With 14-22bb's you're looking to make resteals in good spots (look to see who's actively stealing in LP and then shove your stack in over top of them,...this can actually be done with hands like 98s as you've got foldequity and if you know villain shoves wide but calls tight).
That's 2paragraphs of 40+ pages. In other words there's tons more to it.

For a decent base in which to work from for playing NLHE Tournament play, read Dan Harrington's "Harrington On Holdem - Tournament Play Vol.1, & 'EndGame Vol.2'). If you read these you will not onlyl have a decent foundation for tournament play but will also have a head up on alot of the playing field (although these days in anything over micro buyins a decent percentage of the field will have either read this or be familiar with it's content).
GL on the tables!
 
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if this is good for you?? Im just saying it works well for me..GL
 
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I've got a nice 40+ page guide but it's a bit too lengthy to put on here.
Your question is kinda broad & far-reaching so I don't feel like I can make a simplified answer to it.
Generally speaking, you want to stay ahead of the blinds (preferably with a workable stack of 30+bb's,... which again depends upon what type of structure the tourney has that you're referring to..... a 1500chip donkament is another story).
Adjust your play according to your stack size in relation to the blinds, in relation to the stack sizes of the other players on your table & their playing styles.
Stack size adjustments (your own stack that is)... with <12bb's you're basically looking to open-shove (but it'd be best to at least have an idea... or a look at a +EV shoving chart so you know what you can profitably push with from diff positions on table). 14-22bb this is basically a re-steal sized stack, you don't really want to raise/fold pre with a stack of this size (although you'll see it all the time by randoms.... especially don't ever raise fold if you're like <14bb's). With 14-22bb's you're looking to make resteals in good spots (look to see who's actively stealing in LP and then shove your stack in over top of them,...this can actually be done with hands like 98s as you've got foldequity and if you know villain shoves wide but calls tight).
That's 2paragraphs of 40+ pages. In other words there's tons more to it.

For a decent base in which to work from for playing NLHE Tournament play, read Dan Harrington's "Harrington On Holdem - Tournament Play Vol.1, & 'EndGame Vol.2'). If you read these you will not onlyl have a decent foundation for tournament play but will also have a head up on alot of the playing field (although these days in anything over micro buyins a decent percentage of the field will have either read this or be familiar with it's content).
GL on the tables!
Is there a place where I can read the 40 page guide? Or, is that allowed?
 
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They aren't too different really. MTTs just require more patience and lengthy periods of concentration.
 
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If you're gonna play tourneys make time in real life for them, they can take forever. If you're only used to playing an hour or two of poker at a time, 5-6 hours can be a lot of time to play. Stick to low buy in tournies at first to get a feel for the rising blinds and play at different stages.
 
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They aren't too different really. MTTs just require more patience and lengthy periods of concentration.


disagree. they are completely differant... one you play flops and one you dont.. :D
 
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