This is a discussion on Queen Ten suited within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; Just busted in MTT tourney. 900 entries, 130 advanced. I was 46th with 100K chips.
Early on day 2. Players under the gun (big stack)
2nd hand = depending on what the blinds were it's an acceptable raise. Not sure I'd call off all in. A lot depends on the blinds, how much longer until next level, how many people were left, what is BB's history? Lots of missing information.
First hand I agree with the other comments...easy fold to an UTG 3+bb raise. The 2nd hand I think you overplayed the hand with your first bet. You're in line to make the money so survival is what you are trying to since you don't yet have a stack that will take you all the way to the big money. The blinds appeared to be around 7K...a 14K 2bb raise would have been better. And, then, it's an easier fold to the big blinds huge raise. KJ not a hand to gamble your tournament life with.
First hand weak, don't play it.
KJs also a weak hand you raised from the CO correctly to steal the BB, his raise told you to back off, you should.
Your 24K raise represented how many blinds, 2.5 bbs should have been all you invested first in from the CO.
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As with the others I agree QTs is a snap fold here. The 2nd hand we need more information to make a good response but I would have folded more than likely but its really depends on the other information we did not get here.
I agree that the first hand was played correctly. The second hand if I understand the numbers correctly meant that you had only about 9 BB left at start of hand. The results would have been the same but I think the second hand should have been a shove.
With two players already in the pot, early position action and a more than 3BB open raise, its fine to not defend your blind with QTs. There is to much risk of flopping a dominated pair and getting it in bad, and your stack is way to short to draw profitably. What cards came on the flop, after you folded, is totally irrelevant.
In the second hand it seem like, blinds were 7000/3500, and you had a starting stack of 75.000. That is only 11BB, and then KJs is just an automatic open shove from CO. You are to short to make a normal raise, because you are not going to fold to a jam anyway. And therefore its better for you to be the one pushing, because it gives you more fold equity.
Picking up a round of blinds and antes uncontested will increase your stack by almost 25%, which is very meaningfull. So you did in fact misplay the KJs hand, but depending what he had, the result might well have been the same, if he was strong enough to call your push. With stacks this short there is generally not room for much finesse in poker, and it just is, what it is.
This is a classic case of playing the hand and not playing with seeing the result of what would have happened. The Q10 is a fold automatically. You are facing hands that dominate you and you have to get extremely lucky. KJ is the same thing. You are at least facing AJ/AK or a pair. Those hands are all favorites against you.
Especially playing late in a tournament, you want to protect your stack with strong holdings. If someone shoves pre-flop against you that basically covers you and you're holding KJ, it's an auto fold.
First hand I agree with everyone that it was a good fold regardless of the flop.
Second hand I don't believe with your stack depth you should be just opening. It's the type of hand that's either a shove or fold imo. With 11 bigs you can't afford to lose 2 bb's by open folding so it's forcing you to get it in with KJ. Overplayed imo
It really happens on several occasions, you let yourself go because on the first play when you folded, you regretted to see the result that the flop threw, but the truth is that you did well, fold was the correct desition, and for the worse of many, what happened to you happens to all players on many occasions, later this play made you doubt as something similar came out, KJ suited, in which you had to have folded too, and the inevitable happened, you lost. Folding both hands was the best option, next time remember that
I agree with others first hand is a fold with your stack size. I don't mind a call if you had a bigger stack size and a call was only about 5 per cent of your stack. Calling after a raise and another caller, means there's more in the pot and you are getting better odds (I'd be less likely to call without the big stack caller.). It's a spec hand but high suited gappers are nice to be able to see a flop with. You just have to be ok with letting it go if you only flop so so. KJ hand sounds like a fold or a shove with your stack size, depending on the types of players left to act, etc