QQ, MTT 144 Players, Early Game, Button vs HJ

No Limit Holdem Tournament
pokerstars
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Skidmark (1,540) 77bb
UTG+1 BettingHot (1,470) 74bb
MP1 masztalski (1,590) 80bb
MP2 T_slu4ay (1,520) 76bb
MP3 MSSilv_AA (1,480) 74bb
CO pimp-jeroen (1,470) 74bb
BTN HERO (1,470) 74bb
SB 2inTHEstink (1,480) 74bb
BB LuckotR (1,490) 75bb

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 9 players) HERO is BTN
4 folds, MSSilv_AA raises to 50, 1 fold, HERO raises to 150, 2 folds, MSSilv_AA raises to 350, HERO ???

What is your move in this spot?

I would call his re-raise. He might be trying to force you to fold, or have a real hand. So, after you see the flop, if you dont hit your set, you need to be really careful. He could easily have an Aces or Kings. I think that post-flop he will give you a pretty good example of what he has. If the flop is ten high and he is still raising he must have an overpair. Might be Jacks, might be Kings. You cant know for sure. In that situation you need to be prepared to face a set, higher or lower than yours. If its lower you need to be glad, since people with real hands tend to pay more money.

Stats on villain? Has he been in a lot of pots? Is he a gigantic nit? His 4 bet range is probably AK/QQ+ you flip with AK, chop with QQ... And are crushed by KK and AA. If he hasn't been in a lot of pots (by this I mean almost 0 pots) maybe we can find a fold. If he's an aggro donk we can 5 bet.... This is very very villain dependent.

With that being said, QQ is typically the worst hand that I will stack off against any range pre. it has a lot of equity against every single hand range villain can have. If you have a read that your beat, by all means fold. If he only enters 2% of pots then your beat especially since he 4 bet.

Put up Villain stats please then I and other members can give you better advice

Sry. I had no reads about it. Was in early game.

Honestly, I would fold here. It's early here. If you're wrong your gonna be out. If you double up there is no guarantee you will win this tourney. He never has 22-jj here. It's ak, Kk, or aa. (Not sure what buyin you are playing, my range could off but if it is a low stake tourney then it is pretty accurate. Higher buyin tourney with much more meta gaming going on we will need to adjust it) against that range, you are behind. I hate calling here because all under cards could flop and you have no idea about where you are. I would fold here and move on.

Without any further info on the players you are generally folding to a 4 bet unless you have Aces or Kings.

In an MTT, I seldom re-raise with QQ until I am sure of the clientele at the table, so I flat the first raise, and see the flop. IF (big if) I understand the players, I could call the 4 bet here, but I get the feeling you want to know whether we shove.

For me? No. Not early. I always want to see a flop with QQ.

Its possible he has aa or kk. I think u should call and see if an over card hits and c/r all in or just open shove because he could get out of line with 10-10 J-J most likely i think he has AK. Theres a good possibility he has one of the monsters preflop. With no read its what u prefer but folding pre isnt a bad play since its early. Tough spot but not as if u had jacks here

steveiam said:

Without any further info on the players you are generally folding to a 4 bet unless you have Aces or Kings.

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lol folding queens here readless just no way, question is do we click back or flat i would likely flat let him fire off bets with AK and AQs type hands maybe value own himself with JJ and 10's on boards

I prefer fold here too. Because of the bet and raise of the villain he can have hands like QQ, KK, AA and AK and as is early in the tournament is better fold here or call his raise and evaluate the flop.

If he has AK we have almost a coin flip

If he has KK or AA we are lost

If he has QQ we are playing to tie

What is the good situation here? Since is early in the tournament I prefer to fold.

TheNoobie said:

Might be Jacks, might be Kings. You cant know for sure.

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For sure, no. But that doesn't mean JJ and KK are equally likely. Even with no read on this specific player, it seems reasonable to assume JJ is less likely because more people will 4bet KK than JJ. When you range someone, you want to consider not just what holdings are possible, but also how likely they are.

konatus said:

I prefer fold here too. Because of the bet and raise of the villain he can have hands like QQ, KK, AA and AK and as is early in the tournament is better fold here or call his raise and evaluate the flop.

If he has AK we have almost a coin flip

If he has KK or AA we are lost

If he has QQ we are playing to tie

What is the good situation here? Since is early in the tournament I prefer to fold.

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If his range is QQ+ AK, you're about a 3:2 dog. If it's TT+ AQ+, you're ahead about 11:9. If it's 88+ AJ+ KQ, you're ahead by a bit better than 3:2.

While I don't object to folding, considering the dead money in the pot, it's not the worst spot in the world to call or even to shove, especially if it's a micro-buyin or freeroll where it's not unknown for people to overplay good but not great hands early on.

correct play would be raise to 750 but this is my opinion if he push call all in he can get AK su 50/50

flat and hope to spike a queen.

But most likely he is holding KK + unfortunately