QQ early vs LAG player

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Blinds 75/150. Ante 15.
The LAG player makes it 4X to go, you call and the flop's AQ3 ...with flush draw and straight draw. LAG player bets 1000 in a pot of about 1500. You re-raise, he shoves.

What do you put him on?
 
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Without more info its difficult to say. with all the draw's 2 pair maybe or trips.
 
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I would put him on a flush ( if not straight flush draw) with 2 4 or 2 5 suited. Good Lag players do not shove with a minimum chance of a coin flip .
 
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I would put him on a flush ( if not straight flush draw) with 2 4 or 2 5 suited. Good Lag players do not shove with a minimum chance of a coin flip .
We don't know if he is a good Lag player or not though.
 
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I assume this is live? if not get a hand converter, what position did he open from? also is it cash or tourney? we need more info!! but from this i would say his range as played is anything like AK AQ 33 or FD bottom of his range maybe AJ or Ax with FD
 
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We don't know if he is a good Lag player or not though.
Ure right more info would be fine
Ok, its was only my prediction that he is a good player.
If hes not ,he will probably have 2 pair, and does not think of running against a set.:D
 
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Not enought info. How much BI? What was his WTSD, WWSF and WSD? Maybe only maniac fish not LAG :D I think that correct LAG is when min BI+22$ and when cash NL100+ and his WSF and WSD>70%
 
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Well it was a 200$-ish live buyin tournament and that was all the info I had on the other player. And yes, he had shown K7s before in one hand and 65s in another.

But my luck, he had the rockets and I was thrown off the rail. It was only afterward that I learnt that he has been making a lot of noise in the circuit. And I don't know if I could have done anything to stop the inevitable. Maybe a re-raise pre-flop would have saved my fate. But I'm not very sure.
 
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Well it was a 200$-ish live buyin tournament and that was all the info I had on the other player. And yes, he had shown K7s before in one hand and 65s in another.

But my luck, he had the rockets and I was thrown off the rail. It was only afterward that I learnt that he has been making a lot of noise in the circuit. And I don't know if I could have done anything to stop the inevitable. Maybe a re-raise pre-flop would have saved my fate. But I'm not very sure.
Just think of it as a cooler not much you could have done really. The chips were always going in after the flop.
 
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If I had to guess, king jack same suit, flush/straight draw.
 
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I think he had A Q or A K or a a pair and flush draw...
 
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i put him on any A+ s cards as i have seen LAG player genrally tends to call if they had draw on the flop , they doesnt care what the other players action , they just wanna take thier chances in coin flip and as u say he calls K7s so its quite a chance he come with flush draw mostly as he would have guess u are coming with A+ cards and if u Tight on table u must have come with Pairs or Mostly top hands
 
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A8 something my guess. mybee eaven higher kicker.
 
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He already said the opponent had aces...
Tough to escape from that hand, nasty setup, I don't think anyone could fold that, especially against LAG.
And river Q saves us very rarely but saw that happening already few times in set vs set situations :D
 
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saw that happening already few times in set vs set situations :D

Variance in PLO is a BITCH!

But rather run bad in PLO than normal on Full Tilt:stickyman
 
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Variance in PLO is a BITCH!

But rather run bad in PLO than normal on Full Tilt:stickyman
Hey mate! No idea where I was speaking about PLO here :)
Or you mean another terrible tournament of mine that you probably saw today.
Yes, honestly I lost 9 from 10 flips in PLO today, so you're right about the variance, just I call it karma in my case :D
 
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Hey mate! No idea where I was speaking about PLO here :)
Or you mean another terrible tournament of mine that you probably saw today.
Yes, honestly I lost 9 from 10 flips in PLO today, so you're right about the variance, just I call it karma in my case :D

Just saw you getting destroyed recently by a 1 outer on a K44 flop KK vs 4x in PLO :D
 
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I am getting it in with middle set in this spot 100% of the time, if they have the over set o well. It is just poker and a cooler if they have over set.
 
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So you flop a set and you're contemplating a fold? smh...this is a high five snap call. You crush his opening range and if you run into a bigger set, oh well, GG. If he has a flush draw, I'm not scared to see 2 more cards. The way I run, he'll hit his flush on the turn, I'll river a boat.
 
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So you flop a set and you're contemplating a fold? smh...this is a high five snap call. You crush his opening range and if you run into a bigger set, oh well, GG. If he has a flush draw, I'm not scared to see 2 more cards. The way I run, he'll hit his flush on the turn, I'll river a boat.
And I have seen you do that..:)
 
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Blinds 75/150. Ante 15.
The LAG player makes it 4X to go, you call and the flop's AQ3 ...with flush draw and straight draw. LAG player bets 1000 in a pot of about 1500. You re-raise, he shoves.

What do you put him on?

Ax, 10 10+
potential drawing hands he could have or he could be scare of the flush holding Ace broadway.

I think the correct/safest play here is to check when out of position let him bet into you and see the turn card.
just for pot control, you dont risk losing the pot. and if the card comes a brick, you can raise him out of pot equity if he is drawing and if he has like ace queen, or any ace he may just call you and pay you off
 
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I bet he had an ace, and because there is a possible flush draw he shoves to make you pay for it or he had a flush draw and want to gamble to make a big pot. Something like that. But because he made 4x bet pre-flop, i am mostly certain he had only one ace, AK,AQ,AJ hands like that.
 
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This is the easiest call in the world, if he has aa so be it. There are so many worse hands he can have, unless you know with a certainty, in this case you describe him as a lag and that makes it a even easier call. I honestly don't see the reason of this post.
 
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