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I feel like i play better at MTTs and SnGs rather than Cash games i don't know all my winnings in MTTs and SnGs just leak from playing Cash games.

Can anyone enlighten me or give me some advice on playing Cash games?
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An advice that I've always been told, avoid cash games! ;)
I got kind of the same problem as you, I have a major leak in cash games, so I try to avoid them :)
 
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Ive allways noticed that people seem to play quite diffrently in cash games when compared to tourneys.

Im assuming were talking about low limit/buy in here.

In such low money cash games people actually seem to play even looser in cash games than they would in a freeroll. The "im the best" aspect of playing in a tourney makes people actually care more about winning and loosing than they do when there is real money on the line. At least it does when its rather small amounts of money at a time.

I belive this is because when playing a tourney people are concentrating on winning the whole tournament rather than just this hand. When playing cash games weak players simply dont think beyond the current hand. This makes them even more impatient and likely to play stupidly.

So how is a whole table full of people playing poorly a bad thing. Well its not but it does require a whole different strategy. In low limit cash games I tend to throw all strategy out the window. It just doesnt work because people dont care wether or not they loose a couple bucks. bluffing is pretty much useless for this reason as is stealing the blinds. Even in no limit games bluffing is a bad idea because the amount you have to bluff with to make it possible to work is simply not worth the prize.

So what you do is this. Play good hands and only raise to increase the pot size. Never raise thinking to push other players out of a pot. This does kind of leave you at the mercy of chance but fortunately all those bad players will be quite happy to pay you off every time your good hands hit. Unfortunately your simply going to loose more often to crazy hands where somebody picked up 2 pair after calling raises with 38 in the hole.

There are also some hands that are worthwhile in low limit cash games that simply arent in tourneys or higher limit games. Any suited ace is worth seeing a flop if you can get in cheap because if it hits for you its almost certainly hit for someone else because weak players love any suited card. Of course youve got the best possible flush so you get paid. On the other hand any pocket pairs lower than 10s are pretty much not worth playing. These hands really only have good odds of winning if there are only 1 or 2 other people in the hand and that happens rarely in these kind of games.

The last thing to remember about cash games is that you need a very long view on them. Much longer in fact than tourneys. I think its impossible to tell how well your really doing in cash games with out 3-6 months worth of data and thats playing every day for 4 or more hours.

If you can figure out cash games they are the best way to build your bankroll. Tourneys are fun but its the cash games that you can actually make a living playing (not the low limit ones obviously).

Have fun and play well.
 
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An advice that I've always been told, avoid cash games! ;)
I got kind of the same problem as you, I have a major leak in cash games, so I try to avoid them :)

i seem to have better success in cash games. i dont really see how there are different styles to play at either or. if you disagree please explain.
 
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i seem to have better success in cash games. i dont really see how there are different styles to play at either or. if you disagree please explain.
Well it alot easier to put tourney chips in the middle or risk going broke then it is in a cash game so hard to play the same way...
 
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@ kyndlyon
As steortex said it is easier to risk going broke in a tournament. One single reason, you can put your entire stack to the middle and lose that hand without going bust.

Now, I don't think that is the way you should play, but I've been talking to a lot of people who're thinking like that. Those are, according to me, the players who "ruins" the game for us when they hit.

If you take your entire bankroll to a table in cash games and do the same (pushing your stack to the middle), then you got the chance to go bust. In that one single hand.
That is why you should be playing differently in cash games in tournaments.
Furthermore, when you play cash games I think you should play it like you play a "winner-takes-all"-sng.
'It is kind of the same play you should use because most players are playing only 1 hand at a time in cash games, which they don't do in tournaments. At least not all of them.
In tournaments, your main goal is to cash so that you will gain profit from that tournament. When you are in the cash you go for final table, and when you're at final table, play it like a sng with very high blinds :)

That is my point of view, and it is not everyone who thinks like that, so you will get many different answers depending on who you're asking. :)

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No doubt cash game strategey is different from tourney. Most people I know play cash games quite a bit loser then tourneys. Myself I stick with tournys and sit & go's. Except for the 1 or 2 homes games I might play in with freinds and family.
 
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Cash games and SnGs/MTTs are two different games pretty much. In SnGs/MTTs a lot of play will be preflop, especially in later stages where (at least in SnGs) its preflop shoves. Cash games are all about post flop play, making the most money on hands, and losing the least. In tourneys you will be playing short stacked a lot, whereas in Cash you should always have 100 bbs or more.
 
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Cash game and tourny games a very different, as you can be blinded out in a tournament and you have to keep accumulating chips, so you can pay the blinds which will keep rising in price. This alone makes the need for a different strategy for the games.

In cash game you have the great advantage you can leave and enter anytime you want, not an option in tournys, sometimes you stuck there for a very very long time.
 
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I feel like i play better at MTTs and SnGs rather than Cash games i don't know all my winnings in MTTs and SnGs just leak from playing Cash games.

Can anyone enlighten me or give me some advice on playing Cash games?
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Happy Holidays CC!

I didn't read any of the other posts, but allow me to add my 2 cents:

I hate cash games. The thing about them is that you aren't really working towards anything, except for winning big pots. I like single table sng's because of the progressive blinds, and the fact that you play until all but one person is eliminated. They are low variance, and pretty much better in every facet (at least for me).

My advice? Stop playing cash games altogether. Some people are good at them, but you're probably like me, and I'm horrible at them
 
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