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Just played a dozen or so of these tourneys, min cashed 3, took one down for $123, and busted the rest, the fields seem to be pretty weak with a lot of bad players, busted one tourney with a player shoving A8s UTG early on called with KK and lost, they are turbo tourneys so you spend the majority of the tournament in a fold/shove mode so i guess they're quite swingy, definitely alot of fun though. Anybody have any experiences with these tourneys or had a decent ROI playing them?
 
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i dont like such big fields with weak players in turbo tournaments becaus you have to call many all ins and get lucky in most of them.in my opinion you dont have big ev in that situation and its a matter of luck to win them
 
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definately one of the more gambly tournaments, its only really the top 3 you make a worth profit so top 3 of 180 youl be lucky to get top 3, three times in 50 attempts,

I use to enjoy playing them realisticly I prefer to invest 7 dollars into an 18 man with around a 30-35 % of cashing with an edge, 45-34 dollar payouts and your playing less than an hour or about an hour standard.

one thing to note is when playing the lowest buy in sit n gos since so many people are going through the swings cycle naturally theirs tilt and poor play so more likely to cash playing solid simple
 
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definately one of the more gambly tournaments, its only really the top 3 you make a worth profit so top 3 of 180 youl be lucky to get top 3, three times in 50 attempts,

I use to enjoy playing them realisticly I prefer to invest 7 dollars into an 18 man with around a 30-35 % of cashing with an edge, 45-34 dollar payouts and your playing less than an hour or about an hour standard.

one thing to note is when playing the lowest buy in sit n gos since so many people are going through the swings cycle naturally theirs tilt and poor play so more likely to cash playing solid simple

i won two of these in two days, it was all skill no luck ;):party:
 
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i won two of these in two days, it was all skill no luck ;):party:

Very nice, congrats :) But I am sure some luck was involved ;)

p.s. don't like Turbos either for the same reason already mentoined.
 
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i won two of these in two days, it was all skill no luck ;):party:

I'm not saying it's not achievable (because it is) but the average CC user wont be an expert in turbo strategy and without that knowledge your success is limited due to the swing's lage stage tournament in the turbo's.

It helps to have a HUD again I would expect to min cash over 50-60% of the time
coming in the top 2 three times in 50 attempts as a good record for most.
20-25 would be excellent
 
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Very nice, congrats :) But I am sure some luck was involved ;)

p.s. don't like Turbos either for the same reason already mentoined.

yes there was a lot of luck and the flips went my way, was down to one big blind late during one of my wins :D
 
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i know lots of people that grind them from 2.5-15. def profitable but reasonable variance
 
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As I am pretty unlucky in coinflips, I try to avoid turbo sit'n'gos with 2+ people. You either hit or you bust out, nothing much to say.
 
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I'm not saying it's not achievable (because it is) but the average CC user wont be an expert in turbo strategy and without that knowledge your success is limited due to the swing's lage stage tournament in the turbo's.

It helps to have a HUD again I would expect to min cash over 50-60% of the time
coming in the top 2 three times in 50 attempts as a good record for most.
20-25 would be excellent
The were one of the most profitable games pre-black friday, nowadays they are not so beatable. Yes they still are profitable, but more and more regs are playing them, which makes it hard, and the fish are not playing them as often as they are going to the hyper turbo formats more often.


Just played a dozen or so of these tourneys, min cashed 3, took one down for $123, and busted the rest, the fields seem to be pretty weak with a lot of bad players, busted one tourney with a player shoving A8s UTG early on called with KK and lost, they are turbo tourneys so you spend the majority of the tournament in a fold/shove mode so i guess they're quite swingy, definitely alot of fun though. Anybody have any experiences with these tourneys or had a decent ROI playing them?

Ya it's great when you are winning, but don't automatically assume you are a genius, it takes literally thousands of games just to give you a ballpark of if you can beat these games or not. in peak hours, you should expect there to be 30-60 regs in these games minimum, which makes late game really difficult. you have to take really thin shoving spots, getting ITM with a shortstack is an absolute waste of time in these things, you need to gogogogo to get a big stack to abuse the final table bubble, and of course, abuse the final table payout jumps, which can be also hard to do these days.




Cotto- what do you mean? you think you can cash in these games 60% of the time?
 
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I agree with taban 13: without luck in such tournaments is hard to win. And more three in a row!!!
 
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poker not game of luck it is game of skill...

You can't sit there and say all of poker is skill. Everyone knows their is little bit of luck involved. Sorry to burst peoplea bubbles but you need good luck to run deep and win tourneys. Don't believe me...if you play your best mo bad plays, still see how many coin flips you gotta win. Or hands you moght of went all-in pre-flop with the better hand and lose. Yes a lot of skill involved, but lady luck as well has to be on your side.
 
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You can't sit there and say all of poker is skill. Everyone knows their is little bit of luck involved. Sorry to burst peoplea bubbles but you need good luck to run deep and win tourneys. Don't believe me...if you play your best mo bad plays, still see how many coin flips you gotta win. Or hands you moght of went all-in pre-flop with the better hand and lose. Yes a lot of skill involved, but lady luck as well has to be on your side.
Getting into flips with ONLY Aces or Kings is a skill which nearly nobody has in weak-field tournaments. Yes, you need luck, but in a long-run a skilled player is much more profitable than a fish who blames his mistakes on luck.
 
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I play this tournament only with GOD hands first 30 minutes,after i'll push all Ax in late position and small pairs,before i dont get average stack.
 
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hello greekdude, ive been playing these recently min cashing 3 times outa 7 two just missing the final table, a see a lot of bad play and a lot of suckouts, im not bad at the push folding game, they are a lot of fun, im not sure about them being profitable for me yet so gunna play a few more, well done on your win. G,L..
 
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Getting into flips with ONLY Aces or Kings is a skill which nearly nobody has in weak-field tournaments. Yes, you need luck, but in a long-run a skilled player is much more profitable than a fish who blames his mistakes on luck.

Well wasnt saying it was all luck. But gotta have some luck to get by. Even pros make bad plays and get lucky. Same with us amatures.
 
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You have to be lucky to get profit from this one, i mean in all these coinflips if you lose only one you are out of money for sure.... i don't think you can builld good BR with playing them but you can try and u wont lose much time...
 
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just thought id mention just played 3 of them tonight, one just missing min cash with a suckout, 2nd nowhere due to tilt from first one and 3rd i got 3rd place for 46 dollar, got a bit excited with A,7o i went 10,000 he put me allinn with his 88, not sure if i should of folded and waited for something better, i would usally fold there but like i said i got excited, i try not to rely on luck.. gunna give a few more a try,ill keep u posted..G,L.
 
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Luck is a factor but skill is most important factor. In turbo format also , in longrun only skilled player will find them lucky
 
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my very next game after a 3rd place i got 3rd again,, so frustrating, i shoved with A.,Q got called by K,Q and he fopped trip Ks. or is that a set?? today not so well 3 min cashes outa 8.. G,L.
 
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Ive played 327 of them and broke even. But in the 1$ hyper I have 55% roi after 1700 games. You just need a good push/fold. There is skill in them but the edges are a lot smaller.
 
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Ive played 327 of them and broke even. But in the 1$ hyper I have 55% roi after 1700 games. You just need a good push/fold. There is skill in them but the edges are a lot smaller.

This :)
I played 4 games in 2 days,and finished 1st,2nd,3rd and one time got busted.... So made like 100$ with 4$.. If you double up one and than be patient and just shove good cards its easy to make itm,than i start to steal blinds... Maybe it was luck,but i did quite good in hypers in past...

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that has a lot of variansa he/she has to have the basic strategy to be very strict
 
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IMO in these tournaments to get top 3 definately alot of luck is involved such as calling all-ins and all. Otherwise once the blinds are high there will be some players with chip stack way bigger than yours.
 
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