Originally Posted by NEWTDOG101
I think what they're trying to say is to have a plan going into the flop. Not to just call and see what happens. Have an idea of what you'll do if x happens. As for the hand. if 4x bb is big enough for you to fold, I woulda just shoved pre. No doubt a call from here, got the odds
to call it. If he had more chips though and he made a bet instead of shoving. It's a tough one. Happens to me a lot when i get JJ or QQ and a K or A falls on the flop. You just gotta think back to hands played before and to how they played it up until then. Typically. If I can find any reason as to them possibly having the overcard, I'll fold. I'd rather lose a 4x bb bet then my whole stack. Sure sometimes they are gonna be able to shove you off when you had them beat, but if you feel you're beat, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with laying it down. One of the best things I ever heard in dealing with tournament poker was if you can wait for a better spot to get your chips in, then go ahead, lay down the pp, and wait for your golden hand to come along.