Originally Posted by pat3392
I don't know when i should go into this mode. Some say 10 blinds, others 13. I did some math and worked out that at 5 blinds if you call you are actually losing on average, and that's assuming you will win every time you hit! Most places In play at I am the only one who goes all in when I get short. Other players seem to wait for some decent cards or call to see where they're at instead(if they're in the small blind for example)
I am starting to question the usefullness of push-fold mode, as I get into a lot of trouble doing it. It just is so risky. When Should I push-fold?
Just the other night, one player got to the final table with 2 blinds. She didn't make any moves as she wasn't getting anything. When she sat down she was UTG. She got J2 and I would have went all in, thinking that If I don't go all in now I will have to go all in on the blind, where I would probably have a worse hand. If I did my move, I would have ran into decent cards and bust. The next move she had crap cards, like 47 or something. Only one player called and she checked, whereas I might of went all in, thinking that I really needed to chip up. The flop came and she paired, her opponent checked she went all in and he folded. 10 minutes later she somehow won the damn tournament. She said she got A8 twice in a row and went all in and doubled up.
So, is playing a more passive game better until I get decent cards for a push?
Another thing, if I pushed when I had 10 blinds everyone would just fold, so I would make little money on my decent hands. If I just sit back and only play 1 out every 15 hands or something, and those hands I would be an all in, I would lose money overall anyway(to the blinds), unless someone decided to call and I holded up.
By the way, I play at lots of turbo tournaments, where most players have are extremely short stacked (15 blinds is average around half way through the tournament)
Generally, if I'm at 10 BB's or less, if I plan on raising, I am raising all-in. This is because, if someone 3-bets, we're getting the odds
to call anyway, so we should shove ourselves and maximize our fold equity. With 3-7 BB's, we should be looking to widen our shoving range in the SB, and BTN. We can include CO in this if the players behind us are tight. We NEVER want to get below 3 BB's. If you think about it, 3 BB's is a standard raise, and with less than this, we really have no fold equity.
edit: this advice changes when antes are introduced. I wrote this thinking of SNG's, where antes are not as important. We now should be thinking of our stack in terms of M, not in BB's. Check this post out for more info on M: http://www.cardschat.com/f57/ever-wo...what-m-172174/
Waiting for a decent hand is not really a good strategy. For example, say I have 2 BB's and get AK on the button. If I shove and the SB folds, the BB is getting 3.5:1 odds to call. A hand like 72o actually has 32% equity, or 2.1:1 win odds, so his call is extremely justified in this spot. We do not want to let this happen to ourselves, so I'd rather push 5 BB's on the button with any two cards than put myself in that position.
If we push with our 10 BB stack and no one calls, that's actually a good result for us. Stealing the blinds increases our stack by 15%, which is actually a large amount. Don't underestimate how important this is.
In turbos, even though the average stack:blinds ratio is typically smaller, our strategy will mostly stay the same. If we have 10 BB's or less and we want to raise, we will raise all-in. We can widen our shoving range with 3-5 BB's.