"Playing bad after winning big tournament"

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I'm having a problem and i want to get some other peoples take on it

I will have periods of time when i finish in the money in big tournaments consistently and i get the feeling like i'll make it to the final table sooner or later because i am playing very good and i eventually do.

But then after i win a big tournament, its like a switch gets flipped in my brain and i just forget how to win..and i start playing stupid and not even making the money in like 5 consecutive tournaments.

I'm not sure if i'm just tired of being patient or what.

What do you guys think?
 
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5 consecutive tournaments with no cash, is incredibly standard

Maybe its because you cash big, your bankroll grows, and your too comfortbale fo your own good with your BR and just throw your money around.

If you make a big score, maybe cash out a little so you can regain your focus, on rebuilding your BR to what it was before the cash out

This system is used by alot and they find it helpful afaik

For example, ur BR is $1000, you play a good week or two of tournaments, consisting of some scores, and you find your BR at $4000. Its not always the best thing to do and jump up the limits, so why not cash out $3k of that, and go back to square one, even then if you go broke, youve still got winnings to put back into your account, and will still be able to afford the levels you are familiar with.

Thats the best advise i could give i guess
 
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You said it yourself you start playing stupid probably by not being patient. Also there is so much variance in tournament poker you might play optimally and not cash in over 10 or more. Sometimes there is nothing you can do but fire up a new game.
 
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I have this problem too sometimes.
 
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5 consecutive tournaments with no cash, is incredibly standard

Maybe its because you cash big, your bankroll grows, and your too comfortbale fo your own good with your BR and just throw your money around.

If you make a big score, maybe cash out a little so you can regain your focus, on rebuilding your BR to what it was before the cash out

This system is used by alot and they find it helpful afaik

For example, ur BR is $1000, you play a good week or two of tournaments, consisting of some scores, and you find your BR at $4000. Its not always the best thing to do and jump up the limits, so why not cash out $3k of that, and go back to square one, even then if you go broke, youve still got winnings to put back into your account, and will still be able to afford the levels you are familiar with.

Thats the best advise i could give i guess


thanks man i have considered that actually..because i start to get outta control and play high buy in tournys right after that screw up.
cashing out will help keep me grounded
 
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I think it occurs at subconscious level. After a victory you are in a condition of euphoria and start to play is more unchained because is subconsciously ready to loss. In it there is nothing terrible, it is just necessary to strengthen discipline)))) And can matter is not in your game, is difficult constant win large prizes, therefore simply enough when you lose after a prize - at you the impression of interrelation is made
 
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I experienced this, too.

After winning I possibly subconciously got cocky and thought bwhaha I crush this level.

Instead I got owned.

Took me some time to realize what had happened.

You need to take every tourney as serious as possible.

I think what FTP said works -but if you don't want to cash out set a new goal.
 
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I tend to be in cruise control and play higher tournaments after a big win, big mistake, best is to cash out and continue being patience, tournament does take a long time, roughly 2-4hrs, especially the non-turbo tournaments, best to sleep after a big win so you can play at your poker peak
 
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Forget everything that happened before...

... except how to play good, solid poker.

If I've just cashed in a tourney, I tend to lay off any more poker until the next day, feeling "all pokered out". (Well, in reality, at least the next couple of hours!!!)
Walk away, take a break. You've earned it! It's hard to be patient for three to four hours and THEN try to do it again!!!

It is a huge ego boost to finish ITM. Don't let your ego rule your next tourney.
Forget the premium hands you were dealt.
Forget the 'bad beats' you put on others, and the suck outs too.
Forget when you were forced to play a less than premium hand from the SB/BB, but still won the pot.
That was then... this is now. And having done it once does not guarantee the ability to do it again.
Play every tourney as if it were your last $ on the line, not just 5% of your BR.

DO Remember that it just took you up to four hours to win, and only seconds to lose, when playing the wrong hand, or indeed, at the wrong level of play.
Make sure your bankroll can withstand the buy-in. I mean, what's the point in sweating over the PC for hours on end to win $20 in a $1 tourney, just to lose it all in a single hand, in a tourney with a $20 buy in?

I've done it myself, so don't think I'm being too critical. These are just pointers that work for me.
 
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When I go on a winning streak I seem to be able to win quite a few back to back, but the same goes when I am losing, I guess they just come in streaks
 
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i might not have the same stats as you. but i'm doing that same thing right now.
some were lower limits so not so bad and even the one i played that was higher didn't get me too excited.
i look at it this way "i'm letting off steam" and in turn i feel that i'll be able to play solid poker when the time comes.
there's always a game going on and always a chance to pick back up.
and let's face it at times it fun to donk around and just goof off, at least for me it works.
if your seriously worried about it think of it as more practice and more games your playing differently which you never know you may come up with something.
i've been playing more volume since i decided to qualify for ironman on FT, and by doing this i truely feel it's improved my game. but i'm not perfect and i don't want to get ulcers worrying about my game. so that's why letting off steam helps me.
i hope i wrote something that will help you, good luck on the felt.
peace and charge :ridinghor
 
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just try to make sure you play your normal game(don't get over your head)....
 
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take a few days off, you figure that you won a big tourney so you can relax and play a little bit more for fun then anything, i would take about 3 or more days off and remembr what it takes to win and stick to what you did to win and keep it up
 
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take a few days off or just play some freerolls for run get that all in fever out while you can, then when you find yourself playing serious again go back to playing for real money
 
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This happens to me as well and i think that its bc your tired of being patient. I usually take a few days off after a big win and i think making a withdrawl is a great idea.
 
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Happens to me aswell I think people are bang on about the patience thing if you had 5 cash outs in a row you think you can keep it going and if shit ain't going right for you you get frustrated and make stupid rash decisions etc..
 
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I've honestly experienced the opposite effect. When I play well, I tend to ride the momentum and continue to play well after that. Whether or not I go deep still depends on cards to some extent, but I feel like I play very well after going deep into a tournament. It's all about keeping focus and having the mentality to play solid, even with small blinds.
 
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it happens to me sometimes too, I think that's why I have secured some money then do not mind losing a little and this way I can risk more moves, and end up losing the tournament.

but I usually play more DON's
 
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That happened to me as well. I won my biggest cash in a tourney and for a few days, I was going out early.
I think it might have something to do with going from a final table with big amount of chips flying around, and the adrenaline running high. Then starting over with tight play and lower blinds. I like the advice to take a day or two off to calm down before playing again.
 
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Downswings of 5 buy ins is very normal. 10 buy ins is very common. You need a good bankroll of bout 100 buy ins to survive the ups and downs of online poker
 
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... except how to play good, solid poker.

If I've just cashed in a tourney, I tend to lay off any more poker until the next day, feeling "all pokered out". (Well, in reality, at least the next couple of hours!!!)
Walk away, take a break. You've earned it! It's hard to be patient for three to four hours and THEN try to do it again!!!

It is a huge ego boost to finish ITM. Don't let your ego rule your next tourney.
Forget the premium hands you were dealt.
Forget the 'bad beats' you put on others, and the suck outs too.
Forget when you were forced to play a less than premium hand from the SB/BB, but still won the pot.
That was then... this is now. And having done it once does not guarantee the ability to do it again.
Play every tourney as if it were your last $ on the line, not just 5% of your BR.

DO Remember that it just took you up to four hours to win, and only seconds to lose, when playing the wrong hand, or indeed, at the wrong level of play.
Make sure your bankroll can withstand the buy-in. I mean, what's the point in sweating over the PC for hours on end to win $20 in a $1 tourney, just to lose it all in a single hand, in a tourney with a $20 buy in?

I've done it myself, so don't think I'm being too critical. These are just pointers that work for me.
Right on, sometimes we win and sometimes we lose.....
I have come to live with that, all but when a donk plays 72 OS and knocks me out..... :mad:;)
 
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... except how to play good, solid poker.

If I've just cashed in a tourney, I tend to lay off any more poker until the next day, feeling "all pokered out". (Well, in reality, at least the next couple of hours!!!)
Walk away, take a break. You've earned it! It's hard to be patient for three to four hours and THEN try to do it again!!!

It is a huge ego boost to finish ITM. Don't let your ego rule your next tourney.
Forget the premium hands you were dealt.
Forget the 'bad beats' you put on others, and the suck outs too.
Forget when you were forced to play a less than premium hand from the SB/BB, but still won the pot.
That was then... this is now. And having done it once does not guarantee the ability to do it again.
Play every tourney as if it were your last $ on the line, not just 5% of your BR.

DO Remember that it just took you up to four hours to win, and only seconds to lose, when playing the wrong hand, or indeed, at the wrong level of play.
Make sure your bankroll can withstand the buy-in. I mean, what's the point in sweating over the PC for hours on end to win $20 in a $1 tourney, just to lose it all in a single hand, in a tourney with a $20 buy in?

I've done it myself, so don't think I'm being too critical. These are just pointers that work for me.

+1!
 
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id recomend setting a limit of games played right after. and also the same or different limit to play that day if yer not doing good.... a safe way to make sure there's always tomorrow
 
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