Percentage Cash Rate in Double Or Nothing Sit N Gos?

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What cash rate do you think is possible in DON games?

I have just started playing them and I have cashed in 243 out of 398 playing on $10 ones on Stars, which gives me 61%.
I am sure higher than that is possible tho at this level.

Has anyone else here done better?
 
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I play them alot on Carbon Poker. I am sitting at around 73.8% success rate at the $10.80 DON. I have recently moved up to the $21.60 DON and with only 54 games played I have won 42 of them. DON are a more complex tournament, requiring more patience and stack defense.
 
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I need some tips on this.

I am well below 50%. If I don't pick up a big hand and win a big pot early, then it always comes down to being on the bubble and surviving a showdown.

Lately, I've almost all the showdowns. Most of the time I go in ahead, but can't survive.

I think the problem is that I become too nitty in the middle of the tournament, but with blinds climbing, any hand I raise pretty much will make a big dent in my stack, so it's either all in or fold.
 
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Don is the way to go

I started playing DON with only 3-5 dollars and move up to almost $200 within 3 weeks, so I was probably 70 something %. Well, I say if u want to keep it there you have to stay with DON game mostly. I try playing both DON and cash afterward and it mess up my DON game. I lost over $300 now trying to rotate both games.
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I am the opposite. Doing pretty good at cash, except for the occasional bad beats, but doing real bad at DON. Probably winning no more than 40%.

I get too passive, and if I don't double up early, it usually comes down to surviving a showdown... and my luck's been bad at that. Either I run into a big hand from one or both of the blinds, or I lose 60-40 type coin flips. If I don't get a big hand, I usually end up somewhere from 5th to 7th.
 
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I play them alot on Carbon Poker. I am sitting at around 73.8% success rate at the $10.80 DON. I have recently moved up to the $21.60 DON and with only 54 games played I have won 42 of them. DON are a more complex tournament, requiring more patience and stack defense.

Thats pretty good going.

How many games in the sample did you play at the $10.80, and how many tables do you multitable.

I have been multitabling 7 tables.

Figured I ought to link to this thread for those who are interested: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/tournament-poker-59/3-day-10-500-don-challenge-173343/

Couldn't find if it mentions anything about ITM% or ROI, but 61% does sound pretty high.

I actually think my DON game has improved quite a bit from when I first started playing in that sample and think I can probably do better than that now. Theres certainly hands I look back at and think I played badly.

I certainly believe 70% ITM is sustainable at the 10s.
 
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I need some tips on this.

I am well below 50%. If I don't pick up a big hand and win a big pot early, then it always comes down to being on the bubble and surviving a showdown.

Lately, I've almost all the showdowns. Most of the time I go in ahead, but can't survive.

I think the problem is that I become too nitty in the middle of the tournament, but with blinds climbing, any hand I raise pretty much will make a big dent in my stack, so it's either all in or fold.

Maybe post some hands in the analysis section, you are unsure of.

You're supposed to be nitty during the middle of the tournament.

Its just at the end you frequently need to get aggressive in stealing blinds, otherwise you'll get blinded off.
 
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I certainly believe 70% ITM is sustainable at the 10s.

I dont know, but something tells me 70%+ is a bit to high to be optimal.
You probably make more profit playing higher, and more tables, but with a lower ROI.
 
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Maybe post some hands in the analysis section, you are unsure of.

You're supposed to be nitty during the middle of the tournament.

Its just at the end you frequently need to get aggressive in stealing blinds, otherwise you'll get blinded off.

I can't. I play at Carbon Poker and I dunno how to transport the HH into a readable format here... unless I manually enter the text I suppose.

With a little better luck, I think I would have cash in a couple more than I actually have done. There are times when I am sitting in 4th or 5th place and watch the short stack moves in with marginal hands, get called by big stackers and get lucky to double up. So instead of me being closer to cashing, I end up moving down in ranking and being on the bubble.

When it's my turn to shove, I have yet to get my chips in bad but get lucky but I've lost a bunch of 60-40 type hands and a couple even worse. I remember one time I went all in with QQ and got beat by 89. The best break I've gotten with tournament life on the line is AK winning vs. 44 when all in.

Anyway, over the last few days I've stayed away from these DONs and my luck in cash games even improved. Running real good now at cash (a function of running into overly aggressive guys and avoiding bad beats), so I think I am gonna stay away from these SNGs for a few months at least.
 
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