The optimal play AA

#1 December 26th, 2020, 4:31 PM

You are UTG with 40BB in a 9ring, MP players are loose, BB too. You have AsAd after the break. you raise 4x, the MP1 with 19BB 3bet x7, MP2 with 70BB calls, everybody folds. You 4bet 20x, they call. Flop is 7s7d9s. Whay would u do after?

#2 December 26th, 2020, 6:27 PM

If I'm reading this correctly then you'd only have about 25% of the pot left in your stack, and MP1 is already all in? So with those attacks just shove the rest in, given the stack to pot that shouldn't be scaring MP2 away

#3 December 26th, 2020, 6:40 PM

I would definitely give all in, as I would hardly have a 7 on the flop and bluff and your equity is better.

#4 December 26th, 2020, 6:52 PM

After all this you are committed to the pot, only the shove is left

#5 December 26th, 2020, 8:24 PM

On a raised pot looks like a good flop for AA. Keep betting.

#6 December 26th, 2020, 9:13 PM

All in. there is nothing to think about here. If someone tries to suck out on you it will be expensive. You also have a max runner flush draw.

#7 December 26th, 2020, 10:49 PM

At the flop, I would have jammed all in. They were willing to play ball and you were already in heavy. By the flop, yes an all is called for. The other guy could attempt a bluff and this just shuts him down from that. Then again, bluff from him and shove from you would be good.

#8 December 27th, 2020, 3:19 AM

Well, can you believe that the villain called with this.
I did shove the flop.

#9 December 27th, 2020, 9:30 AM

Your stack is 40bb, you have a pocket pair of AA, you make a 3-bet, the opponent makes a re-raise, in this case you do not need to make a call or re-raise, you have only one move here is to put all-in.

#10 December 27th, 2020, 1:28 PM

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

#11 December 27th, 2020, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by Alex70793

Your stack is 40bb, you have a pocket pair of AA, you make a 3-bet, the opponent makes a re-raise, in this case you do not need to make a call or re-raise, you have only one move here is to put all-in.

Agree witht that one. Considering the action preflop you are risking to be pot committed on the flop by 4-betting to 20bb so instead a 4-bet shove looks like a better option. If villain still calls loose then nothing you can do but also nothing you can regret as you have the best hand preflop.

#12 December 27th, 2020, 5:29 PM

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

Yes you are right, however I think that the other fella was going to call anyway because he was playing this way all the time.

#13 December 27th, 2020, 8:09 PM

lol what happen there of cource and call you this is one badBeat man!!

#14 December 28th, 2020, 2:55 PM

Originally Posted by peaceofcoke

Yes you are right, however I think that the other fella was going to call anyway because he was playing this way all the time.

I can argue with you. But maybe you're telling the truth, because we can't imagine what player 2 would do. But you have 40bb (player 2 has 70bb), when you play all in, he has to bet more than 50% of the pot.. I don't know.. I think you should give more statistics about the tournament: what stage, what prizes, how many people are left before the prizes or is it the final table? I do not know any of this, and it is difficult to talk about the possibility of making a very large call!

#15 December 28th, 2020, 3:07 PM

Definitely in this case all in is the optimal solution. But AA ofc is not invincibile.

There's a saying: small cards brings big pots, guess that works pretty much of the time The optimal play AA

#16 December 28th, 2020, 8:40 PM

With the pre-flop action this is an easy shove.

I also don't mind a pre-flop shove. A pot sized raise after the 3-bet and call would be 33.5BB, so shoving with 40BB is not crazy and you pick up a nice sized pot at little risk, or will normally be heads up with a huge advantage.

#17 January 4th, 2021, 7:27 PM

You've already invested a lot in the pot. I think you can go all-in straight away in this situation. The flop only helps a few players. A C-bet is therefore mandatory and then you can go all-in right away.

#18 January 5th, 2021, 4:21 AM

Originally Posted by LFC_yllnwa

You played badly on the preflop. Your first bet was very good, but when you have AA and get a re-raise from a short player, you have to go all in! You have the strongest and best hand, in this situation everything is very simple! The second player paid well when he called x7! To avoid a bad option for yourself, when you see the river, the second player must be knocked out, using all in and easily get chips when he made a call after the first player and all the chips of the first! In the current situation, you should not invent problems for yourself!

Sooooo if we let them get to the flop and that happens should we fold? The optimal play AA

#19 January 9th, 2021, 1:04 AM

Originally Posted by Shay

Sooooo if we let them get to the flop and that happens should we fold? The optimal play AA

You repeat the question of the author of the topic) No! In this situation, it is impossible to fold on the flop! When you have the best hand and get a re-raise from your opponent, you have to play the preflop very aggressively, but if you played poorly, the flop gives you another chance and you have to play all in, except for one situation, I think! When there are 3 cards of the same suit on the flop, but your aces do not fall into this suit, and this is very dangerous for you (a flash draw for the opponent), you need to play carefully!

#20 January 9th, 2021, 3:50 PM

easy call

#21 January 9th, 2021, 7:39 PM

just push the rest to the middle, but in those spots, a lot of times against loose players, if you straight shove pre, usualy you will get at least 1 caller

#22 January 12th, 2021, 6:41 PM

Keep betting. I probably would put All in because it is hard to believe that the others have a 7 in their pocket.

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