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Some days ago, I was playing a live tournament here in my city. I was in the Cutoff holding QhQs, the utg raised about 4bb, and only the utg+1 called, and everyone folded, so I called too, and the players after me also folded, so it was me against 2 players. The flop came: 3d 7d 9d, and the first guy to act moved all in, then the second guy also moved all in, so the action came to me, I stopped for a minute and thought a lot, I was really struggling to put them on a hand, but i concluded that they could have been in either straight, flush, or set of trips, and as none of my queens was a diamond one, I thought it was better to fold. So I did it, and they went to the showdown, they were with like with Js3h and 10c7c. I was like: f*ck, i could've tripled up. So, what do you think of my fold in this case?
 
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3bet preflop.

"set of trips"

lol.
 
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Depending on how much you all had after the 4bb pre-flop raise and call, I would've thought about re-raising. Most likely the caller didn't have AA or KK, but the initial raiser could. I would think if you raise and the original raiser did have AA or KK, he would be getting all his chips in. Pocket Qs and Js are tricky with 3 people.
 
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re-raise preflop an then all-in....
 
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How big was the blinds(early/middle/late) and the stack sizes?

Raising preflop with QQ on cutoff after all the folds is a heaven sent gift in all cases of blinds and if your stacksize is small, should have gone all in.

With early blinds and big stack, its a fold after flop with the way you played. Too early to gamble!

But your situation might be different if all stack sizes and blinds are considered.
 
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feecg said:
Some days ago, I was playing a live tournament here in my city. I was in the Cutoff holding QhQs, the utg raised about 4bb, and only the utg+1 called, and everyone folded, so I called too, and the players after me also folded, so it was me against 2 players. The flop came: 3d 7d 9d, and the first guy to act moved all in, then the second guy also moved all in, so the action came to me, I stopped for a minute and thought a lot, I was really struggling to put them on a hand, but i concluded that they could have been in either straight, flush, or set of trips, and as none of my queens was a diamond one, I thought it was better to fold. So I did it, and they went to the showdown, they were with like with Js3h and 10c7c. I was like: f*ck, i could've tripled up. So, what do you think of my fold in this case?
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Really depends on the type of players you're up against and/or buy-in, the smaller the buy-in and looser the player, the more likely I'm pushing pre-flop and calling the flop.
Judging by the bad bets and calls by the other players with the holdings they had, I'm going to assume this was a low buy-in or freeroll where alcohol was present.
 
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Without knowing stack sizes, I think over all it was a good fold.

Three Diamonds on the flop and you didn't have one. Original raiser pushed all in and could easily have KK or AA. Once the second player comes along then I believe more times then not QQ will be behind and folding is the right play.
 
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3bet pre, snap fold to the two shoves, especially as you don't have a flush draw.
 
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feecg said:
Some days ago, I was playing a live tournament here in my city. I was in the Cutoff holding QhQs, the utg raised about 4bb, and only the utg+1 called, and everyone folded, so I called too, and the players after me also folded, so it was me against 2 players. The flop came: 3d 7d 9d, and the first guy to act moved all in, then the second guy also moved all in, so the action came to me, I stopped for a minute and thought a lot, I was really struggling to put them on a hand, but i concluded that they could have been in either straight, flush, or set of trips, and as none of my queens was a diamond one, I thought it was better to fold. So I did it, and they went to the showdown, they were with like with Js3h and 10c7c. I was like: f*ck, i could've tripled up. So, what do you think of my fold in this case?
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It really depends were the blind was at I assume pretty high so going to the flop probably cost you hard. Also, it depends on your stack if it would of beat you down good fold. If you got beat down already bad fold.
If it beat you down already then mine as well had took the risk. I seen some people bet 2 3rds thier stack and fold sometimes they are good folds that they would have lost but then they only got to stick around a few more hands. If they do come back it is definitely pure luck.
if it would of beat you down as in it didn't hurt your stack to go to the flop that is a good fold cause more hands will come later and you let the donks duke it out. Now you have reads on which ever one stuck around.
 
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feecg said:
Some days ago, I was playing a live tournament here in my city. I was in the Cutoff holding QhQs, the utg raised about 4bb, and only the utg+1 called, and everyone folded, so I called too, and the players after me also folded, so it was me against 2 players. The flop came: 3d 7d 9d, and the first guy to act moved all in, then the second guy also moved all in, so the action came to me, I stopped for a minute and thought a lot, I was really struggling to put them on a hand, but i concluded that they could have been in either straight, flush, or set of trips, and as none of my queens was a diamond one, I thought it was better to fold. So I did it, and they went to the showdown, they were with like with Js3h and 10c7c. I was like: f*ck, i could've tripled up. So, what do you think of my fold in this case?
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You should've raised again. Why are you just calling with queens in the cutoff? Your play wasn't the best in this situation. Shoving suggest they have a very weak hand or hit a hand like bottom pair. If they had hit a real hand like trips then they are going to bet 2/3 to 1/2 the pot to get more chips. This has to be a free roll because not many ppl are that bad to shove with bottom or middle pair unless they just started playing the game with no experience. If you were playing a real tournament with experienced players then your lay down was good. These guys were just stone cold bluffing and got caught. Terrible poker playing
 
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this is lol. if you know that they are bad players you could have make a squeeze preflop, but this makes me think you have doubts about their play. it's strange because maniacs players like to play suited hands, so flop looked easier to fold but...
 
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This is difficult because we don't have any idea of your reads on these players. How were they playing earlier? Were they very aggressive with marginal hands? Did they bet a lot earlier in the tournament? If they were LAG, then a call to trap is a good plan. There is nothing wrong with making a bad fold. How would you have felt if you called and they rolled over nut flush, or a set of9's, or KK? you would have felt pretty good about your fold.
 
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It was a cash game? Is cash game easy allin! If tournamnet depends on the people, I would be 3bet pre flop that guy who opened for 4bb
 
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Since you didn't show aggression preflop it was a good fold no matter what these two gamblers had. As many people havealready said you didn't even hold a diamond. And ok personally I would't have called with the third nut flush draw. ****
 
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Oh come on peoples. If someone 3x bet and at flop play allin he cannot hit anything good? Hit a lucky flop is impossible?
I think sometimes better is fold. Why? Because you still have your cash next to you. Wait for other situation or do situation. Head up mate!
 
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Folded was the correct movement, you were lost with that flop and two allin before you.
I think the fault was letting them get to the flop with those marginal cards
I would do a re-raise preflop as information of what my opponent has and to defend my QQ pair ( is a good pair but AA -KK are better..)
But in addition depends on other factors, it is important to know the kind of player is your opponent, as well as the stack they have and the moment in the tournament.
 
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I also think, that it was a good fold and as for me , everywhere and anytime noone knows if we do right or not, it's some kind of ''luck''!?
 
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I think it was a safe move to fold, flush draw in the open and you don't have a piece of it.
 
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Honest i would have placed the initial raiser on high pocket pair and the other on AQ+,Ak. But i would have 3-bet initially and see what they did, if u had 3-bet and both all in i wouldve been between a rock and a hard place. Probably would have fold. sigh smh, two fish you were up against sir, unfortunate u had to play with such imbeciles
 
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it is obvious that You were not familiar with their play and that You had not any idea about their hand, above all, You had been brought into situation where You lost confidence, and folding, connected with a bad flop, became best option
 
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3 diamonds on board with an all in, I'd be thinking flush and run, especially not having a piece of it being off suit. Even if they were holding 2 pair, pocket pair picking up the set, straight draw... All to rich for me if I only had QQ... I say good fold and don't lose sleep on it.
 
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You should definitely 3bet preflop with QQ, fold on the flop against two shoves is good.
 
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I think you made the right fold, if you play well then in a long run, you will win than risk with such a scenario.
 
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