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I have played a lot of freerolls and this question does not pertain to anything but a mtt that is a 2500$ or more . This question does not include turbos either.
I was in the 2500 money added at colt this weekend. I had doubled my stack to 3 k. The bbs were 50-100. Twice , I was button+1 with kq off. Each time mid position raised to 267, I folded both times.If they were suited I would have called. If it was freeroll ,I would call 99% of the time. My reasoning for folding is
1.The table was tight. This player had not raised much in past hands
2. If I call and flop hits k or q and he bets pot ,Ill fold. I think its a bad hand because ak or aq kills me unless i hit 2 pair or flop a strait
3. any qq kk aa also kills me.
I know there is no set formula,but what would u do in this situation
 
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I fold KQo everytime unless in a late position
 
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I usally fold the kq if raised but usally see any flop for cheap while holding kq. Just dont invest to much cause the AK AQ will get you!
 
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KQ off is a trouble hand because you never know where your at . If you dont flop broadway you are quite often outkicked as the likely hands in with you contain an ace , this is even more likely in a raised pot . If your short and the blinds are crushing you thats another story but if you have enough to play it seems better to wait for a better hand IMO.
 
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Maybe, Jimmy you should use the clock to your advantage, and make people tilt. See you at the table :) Well not after april 1st on Hero poker because you will banned for using the clock.
 
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I don't take issue with folding, it is on the conservative side. I think KQo is playable for a raise in position. And not necessarily just by calling. Since you've doubled your starting stack, you can afford to 3-bet and fold to a 4-bet.

Sure, you could be out-kicked if a K or Q comes on the flop, but you'd also be ahead of middle pairs, AJ et al

It's also not impossible that you're not way behind his range. If, for example, you assume he's opening 10-15% of his hands, you're not a big dog, around 40-45% vs his range. You also have position in a situation where most of his range is unpaired, in which case he'll miss the flop about 2/3 of the time.
 
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I don't take issue with folding, it is on the conservative side

Agreed... KQo at a tight table? Pot that bugger. You get a call and no raise,
you're likely up against a weak A or a weaker K. Or, if Trimming calls, it's prolly a Q7... off ;)

Now, if you get a raise......


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thanks for replies,but no answer or reply on kq suited, would u call?
Or for that matter kj suited os qj suited
 
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Agreed... KQo at a tight table? Pot that bugger. You get a call and no raise,
you're likely up against a weak A or a weaker K.
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WAAAT?? You figure villain is calling here OOP to a 3bet from a 30bb stack with likely a weak A or weaker K? wtf? That just sounds absurd to me!
 
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thanks for replies,but no answer or reply on kq suited, would u call?
Or for that matter kj suited os qj suited
As in many poker situations, the answer is "it depends". There is no single action that's guaranteed to be best under all possible circumstances. Try figuring out what good situations would be to call, to raise and also to fold. And remember that the circumstances can encompass more than just the cards you're looking at or even the current hand.
 
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yup KQ are not strong hand for tight games, free roll ok but mtt with nice prices u dont risk vs riser unless if u decide to see the flop and hit 2 pair on the flop K and Q. Any A on the table will be instant fold for you, also single K or Q is also riski tu play since opotoment can have AK or AQ which pwn you ;D
 
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