Mtts bankroll

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Hello,

I have a question about mtt bankroll management.

Most bankroll management topics I've found talks about how important it is and to not put more than x amount of it in play.

In cash games is easy since i play the same limit and it's easier to do the math in that.. but If i want to play like a session and apply a brm of max 5% of my roll how is it calculated? If i want to play 5 tournaments different byins You add all of them and see If it's 5% or under? Or the mac buyin should be 5%?

Example:
Play 2 x $3 , 2 x $1 and 1 x $5 my bankroll should be $100 so 5% is max buyin or $280 so $14 would be 5%?

Thank You and hope it's not too confusing
 
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Much more...some like 200-300 buyins in MTT is recomended.
Greater variance so you need more buyins to not go bankrupt
 
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I would recommend a minimum of 200 buyins, now the game has become much more aggressive
 
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You can do it on 100 buyins but 200 is comfort zone for sure where you won't bust the roll.

The key is to have enough to where you don't think about it and just register.
 
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You should also keep in mind the amount of entrants into an tournament. An MTT with 1500 entrants is going to have a lot more variance than one with 90 entrants.
 
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If you have a bankroll, just play and play only the buy ins you can afford. I think it is the wiser. Do not make decisions that make you sad!
 
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Marginal on the MTT is used only 1%, but not many have such a bankroll, for example, I can't get to the level to play my tournaments on my bankroll.
 
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I agree with the others. Minimum 200 buy-ins for MTT's (for relatively small fields), but the more the better. Remember you will probably rebuy or re-enter one or more times, so I would even say 300-500 buy-ins if you want to be sure you won't bust your role. Poker can be a cruel game and variance in MTTs is high.
 
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Much more...some like 200-300 buyins in MTT is recomended.
Greater variance so you need more buyins to not go bankrupt[/QUO

Hi there : ) Sounds like a whole lot of buy-ins to me. You bring up the point of skill level. 200-300 buyins is a lot of tournaments to be played not to profit. This is very conservative to me. Then again, I'm kinda laggro lol...
 
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You should play with 200 buyins though if you take rebuy into account then 400 buyins are best to cover any average player.
 
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Don't look at it as a % of your bankroll in play and don't add anything up. Look at it as a number of buy-ins. For instance if you are using 100 buy-ins as your minimum and have a $100 roll you wouldn't play any tournaments with a buy-in larger than $1. If you had a $500 roll you wouldn't play any tournaments with a buy-in larger than $5, and so on.
 
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in my opinion 100 buyins are not enough. 200 is the minimum although recommended by profesionalists there is even more at MTT.
 
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You can into account the 'in the money %', if 10% itm (100 win from 1000 entries) and your skills are average you would be itm every 10 MTT's (on average and with some luck you would break-even), in this case limiting the buy-in to 1% of the bankroll gives you a reasonable buffer.
But, tendency is to limit max buy-in a bit more (to 0.5%).
In practice, I think it is better to select MTT's where your skills are better than average, so you would reach itm more often.
 
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IMO this whole 200(++) BI is super high, mainly because your BR should be dynamic and correct BRM means you will move down in stakes when you hit downswings/variance. This will prevent you from going broke unless you are either a losing player or on the worst downswing imaginable.


Example of ~100 avg. buy-in rule:
Starting BR $250 = $2.50 avg. buy-in.
Lose $50 = 20 lost tournaments.
New BR $200 = $2 avg buy-in.
Lose another $50 = 25 lost tournaments
New BR $150 = $1.50 avg. buy-in.
Lose another $50 = ~33 lost tournaments


I will say the higher BR of 200-300 BI's does factor in a lot more if losing your BR, or substantial drops in BR, would dramatically impact your ability to play poker.
 
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I've taken my last $11 dollars on my account and finished 4th for $1100 in a 15K guaranteed tourney on Full Tilt. I've also blown through $500 dollars in buyins. The general idea is to be conservative... Or have backers : )
 
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With the intention of building a banrol or playing recreationally, you can even deposit 11 $ and play MTT for 11 $. But if you want to keep from poker, you have to have over 200 buyins.
 
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100 buyins in mtt is a good safety margin.
 
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Satellites for tours more expensive 109 until take away
because the expectation it is not clear either on the module or on a sign
and VAR's for sure swings are not weak
, plus the party dvuhsotki now almost all NOCs and in them I think that is weaker than normal (plus me less comfortable to play them)
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, and it is necessary to probe

into the general plan is this:

to tighten the game
to increase the bankroll 2.5 times
to connect hundreds of permanent
 
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Rather have 200 than 100 Buy-INs.
 
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Apparently, you should follow the following rules: if you are a novice player, then a priori adhere to the tight style in this case you will have enough 50-75 buy-ins. As practice grows and the experience becomes more intense, the value of the variance will come to the fore, in this case the margin of safety must be deeper than 150-200 buy-ins.
Also of considerable importance on what limits do you act. Below is the limit of aggressive bankroll management, and vice versa.
 
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I think you will need a whole lot more than 20 buy-ins to survive variance as a tournament player, especially when you are going to play on the big sites where most micro tourneys will have from 1000 to 3000 starters...

And by the way... 2 x $3 + 2 x $1 + $5 is $13 Not $14 :motz:
 
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Hi.
I also think that you need to have at least 200 buy-ins. And even better, and that it would be easier for you to have 300-500 buy-ins.
Good luck.
 
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Bankroll management is only really important if you don't have a full-time job and you are trying to use poker as your only income. If that is the case, yes you should follow a very strict BRM plan. One that is right for you and whatever your poker goals are.

However, if you have a full-time job and want to use poker as a second income, then you can throw BRM out the window as far as I am concerned. In this case all you really need is to feel comfortable in the stakes you are playing and never use your money dedicated towards your life to fund poker.

For example: let's say every month after you have paid your bills and also stuck some funds into a savings account, you have $100 left over. You can take that $100 and play at any stake you are comfortable with, be it 1 buy in at 100NL, 2 at 50NL, or ten $10 MTTs. All you have to do is make sure that if you lose that $100 that you wait until your next paycheck to try again. An alternative path would be to save that xra $100 in a seperate account or in a safe at the house and keep adding to it until you build a bankroll up that you can feel comfortable about.

Good luck!!
 
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IMO this whole 200(++) BI is super high, mainly because your BR should be dynamic and correct BRM means you will move down in stakes when you hit downswings/variance. This will prevent you from going broke unless you are either a losing player or on the worst downswing imaginable.


Example of ~100 avg. buy-in rule:
Starting BR $250 = $2.50 avg. buy-in.
Lose $50 = 20 lost tournaments.
New BR $200 = $2 avg buy-in.
Lose another $50 = 25 lost tournaments
New BR $150 = $1.50 avg. buy-in.
Lose another $50 = ~33 lost tournaments


I will say the higher BR of 200-300 BI's does factor in a lot more if losing your BR, or substantial drops in BR, would dramatically impact your ability to play poker.


thanks for explanation, dude
Finally came the idea of how to lead my bankroll
 
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