Mistake by pro on TV???

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So i was watching an epdisode from WPT London from a long time ago and it was some guy vs freddy deeb. Freddy raised in early position and the guy called.

Deeb had (a-ko)
The other guy had (ad-jd)

The flop came ac,9c,7jh (or something along those line - an ace with a flush draw and gap straight draw)

Deeb bet out about half pot, and then the other guy min-raised.
What was the purpose of this???? I really struggled understanding what he was doing min raising with top pair medium-strong kicker.
Stronger wasn't folding and any draw he was trying to extract money from, he wasn't inducing a mistake as the odds would have been pretty good and the drawer would have some implied odds given the increase of the side of the pot.

Freddy folded his winning a-k and the other guy took the pot, but was the guy's aim to bluff hands like this off their hand?? I think a much better play would have been to just called and try and keep the pot small rather than opening it up again.

Any thoughts?
 
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Well since there are alot of things we don't know, stack sizes, blind levels etc. Perhaps there is history between the two, or if "the other guy" is a relatively unknown etc.

I guess the minraise was representing a set to potentially get stronger AQ/K hands to fold or perhaps he felt he was value raising and deeb read it as a set. Regarding the "min-raise" well it could be correct sizing depending on the blinds and stack depths and stage of the tourney etc.

As for folding the AK, basically if he has little history with the guy and given the strength he showed with reraising him on the flop then he probably put the guy on 99's or 77's since as you said you wouldn't expect any worse Ax to raise in that spot but I could see sets raising because of the wetness of the board with flush and straight draws etc.
 
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Think nothing can be worse then Phil Laak folding the nuts for 60k in that cash game in my opinion
 
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Well if we are getting to pro's making mistakes Ivy mucking a flush when he held the 88 with the spade in the main event a few years back would fall in the list lol.

It just goes to show we all make mistakes in this game at times either because we are tired or just not fully focused etc and it could often be such mistakes that having not made them could have made a big difference.
 
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Freddy is known as a LAG player.

Nobody made a mistake here. The min raise was just big enough to be tempting, but Freddy saw thru it.
 
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Freddy is known as a LAG player.

Nobody made a mistake here. The min raise was just big enough to be tempting, but Freddy saw thru it.

If he saw through it wouldn't he have continued, you are probably reading the flop as if it has a J on it but my assumption was its a typo and its the 7h but he hit the j along with the h.
 
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If he saw through it wouldn't he have continued, you are probably reading the flop as if it has a J on it but my assumption was its a typo and its the 7h but he hit the j along with the h.

yes, assuming the flop had the j. If typo > disregard..... but then move this thread to the drunk posts section......
 
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Happend to me 2 in live tournament i also had a wining hand holding AK , the flop comes 10, A, 10, and the guy made so big rise a assumed he has hit it big holding 10 and i had to fold and not to risk my stack size becomes smaler, when the river was done he showed his hand holding AJ which my hand would beat. Thing is in the fear of busing out early - not a mistake.
 
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there is no way to call that a mistake..LOL i would call it overanylyzing
 
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Happend to me 2 in live tournament i also had a wining hand holding AK , the flop comes 10, A, 10, and the guy made so big rise a assumed he has hit it big holding 10 and i had to fold and not to risk my stack size becomes smaler, when the river was done he showed his hand holding AJ which my hand would beat. Thing is in the fear of busing out early - not a mistake.

Yeah it's always fun when someone over values their hand strength.

I had someone raise me on a paired board and I had a small baby flush. I called with hesitation and saw they only had trips.

*shrugs* it happens
 
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So i was watching an epdisode from WPT London from a long time ago and it was some guy vs freddy deeb. Freddy raised in early position and the guy called.

Deeb had (a-ko)
The other guy had (ad-jd)

The flop came ac,9c,7jh (or something along those line - an ace with a flush draw and gap straight draw)

Deeb bet out about half pot, and then the other guy min-raised.
What was the purpose of this???? I really struggled understanding what he was doing min raising with top pair medium-strong kicker.
Stronger wasn't folding and any draw he was trying to extract money from, he wasn't inducing a mistake as the odds would have been pretty good and the drawer would have some implied odds given the increase of the side of the pot.

Freddy folded his winning a-k and the other guy took the pot, but was the guy's aim to bluff hands like this off their hand?? I think a much better play would have been to just called and try and keep the pot small rather than opening it up again.

Any thoughts?
The guy was bluffing maybe
 
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