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Are these min 3 bets usually strong or weak? I understand it varies for the player but as a default at low stakes what do they mean?
 
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it means they dont know how to get value lol, he's giving you the chance to see the flop, they arent doing it for vcalue or to scare you away, and is a huge mistake on his part if he does have a hand, so play it careful and if he does it too often its not strength
 
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i min 3bet when i'm strong cause i want him/her in the hand and am hoping they 4bet/push all in but that's me everyone is different :)
 
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It could mean a lot of things. At the lowest stakes it usually means either strength or just an inexperienced player trying to look good or get cute. Generally it means strength when tighter players do it and for more aggressive and active players it tends to indicate they don't know what they doing.
Click backs are very useful if played correctly. They are most useful at end of tournaments when stacks are shallow. They can be used both pre and post flop.
They are used:
- to bait an aggressive player to come over the top
- to gain the betting lead for next/later streets
- on the river to gain a little extra value
 
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Doesn't always work . Sometimes he fell into the trap .
 
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I agree it means both, alot of players will do it but you soon notice who the ones are that are inexperienced rather than others who do it hoping someone comes over the top or they get you in the pot at least. :)
 
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At micro limits many do not even understand why they do it))Min 3-bet to blow the Bank(if the hand is good),and the opponent has obviously caught on something.(especially on the river).In order to dislodge someone from the Bank,min 3bet is ineffective.
 
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Bad move unless your ops are uber cowards =) you want money from your good hands so if ops wana see flop make 'em pay!
That being said #1 on micros it usually means a good hand (3bet is always a good hand) unless op showed to be dummy.
That being said #2 regs often use 3 bet with air on recs beacuse (3bet is always a good hand) =)
 
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This is a very bad strategy. You gives a good chance of bank to preflop raiser
 
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Depends a lot on the style of the player, I use a lot both with air and having game. I think the important thing is to leave no loophole to be explored. Because what's good to have AA and make a normal 3bet 3 times the initial bet, and when have air apply a mini raise.
 
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I believe that giving a 3bet three times the initial value most of the time with premium hands like AA, KK, QQ, will most often depend on a quick analysis of the players at the table and looking to identify those who would give a Call fast involving yourself in the hand, so you would always bet 2.2 to 2.5 times BB to attract at least two players, thus increasing the chances of winning the pot.
 
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Depend from players, but usually I make 3 bet with premium hands.
I`m thinking what min raise with 2,5 BB is a good strategy too.
 
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Of course 3 bet means strong hand,but on microlimits peoples dont know why he raises on preflop and call his every 3bets and surrenders on flop.Usually 3 bets working on late stage of tournament.
 
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I would recommend almost never using this strategy. It doesn't allow your opponents to fold, it gives your opponent info on your hand if they notice it, it doesn't build the pot much and it's generally just quite pointless. Maybe you could use it to induce a really aggressive opponent to come over the top, but I would usually either be wanting to see a flop with an opponent like that, or maybe just raising really big so that they'll call a huge raise with utter trash. Don't do it...

As for what hands an opponent is likely to have when they do it, I often think that micro stakes players use it for all their 3-Bets when they are very strong, and will often be the type of people who very rarely 3-Bet in the first place. Obviously you never fold to a min 3-Bet, but just bare in mind that your opponent is probably quite strong and so you shouldn't get to attached to a flopped pair.

Hope that helps!
 
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For what I have seen ..people min 3bets with AA and KK....but I usually 3bet big...
 
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I've only seen a few true click back wars go down. Usually it's between two strong players who each feel that they have the better hand and are trying to pull their opponent into deeper water but not wanting to push them out with an all-in. Then there is the superfluous min raise when half of the table limps in. Then the last person to act decides to min raise without a particularly strong hand, knowing that it's not likely to move any of the other players in the pot off of their hands. That one I don't get. That's just silly.
 
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i agree with the comments that it usually means strength. that being said i always tend to bet not to show strength or weakness but to build the pot. it makes no sense to me when someone flops the nuts and shoves all in. sure it's good to me that it saved me money not having to go to the river but if i got the donkey nuts i want my ops to play so i can get the most optimal payday
 
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Yes, all good... 3 bet 4 bet...
At the time the pledges are called... and it comes... with his 3-bet, you can sit and think as so...
Distance say will return? well, maybe so...
 
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