Middle Stage Tournament Play

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Amazing that the first 2 or 3 hours of online tournament, I am a regular player can have multiple actions present an aggressive and dynamic game I get a big stack, but to spend time beginning to fall, my actions no longer give me results, my games are no longer strong as before. I do not know more than my opponents strategy use to start losing a lot of chips too fast and end up falling in this period. I need help in how to act, how to think, how to play the tournament after this time.
thank you. :confused: :confused:
 
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I agree, when the blinds get higher I Play automatically more defensively, because of the hard work to get the stack. I mostly wait till I get monsters and only than play my game. I don't know if it's false to don't play often hands in the late tournement, just because you can loose the chips very quick. In my opinion it's more luck than skill at the end of the tournement.
 
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I myself have the same Problems in late stage of the mtts. I usually go beyond 100k Chips mark then when the late stage Comes , then wait for too Long for prem Hands n then go out in just cpl of Hands. I guess the mistake we do is we dont Play as many as Hands we shoud have like early Levels . And the blinds eat up our stacks slowly.. the late stage is about taking max risk to make it to final table . now i am learning to be more aggro in late stage so that i can reach near ft, hope the mindset of aggro can Change n make it fruitfull
 
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well maybe is you but probably is the stage, what happens while the mtt is approaching the highest levels is that players start playing more conservative and the hands involved are basically aces or pocket pairs,

the other thing here is that the blinds are higher so the pots are bigger and when you hit it you usually double but when you lose your stack is diminished very deep (sometimes busted)

so i think is not you that are losing stamina but the mtt what is getting harder
 
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You are doing 1 of 2 things. You are being too aggressive, or you are not being aggressive enough.
Later in the Tournament you will have better skilled individuals who can change strategy from hand to hand. You will also have lucky donks who just seem to be hitting on everything they play. A good HUD can help decipher who is an experienced player and who is just getting lucky or is just having a good night.

Also try reading a few tournament strategy books. Knowledge is power and being able to use the information you read is crucial. You can also walk away for a bit clear your head for about 5 minutes grab a water break etc.
 
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In later phases of MTTs you dont just play your hand, you play your position and stack as well. Value of chip decrease very fast with time. Patience and observational skills are now must, alone luck is not enough. Dont play the crap hand at all. Observe the table very well, who is aggressor and who is passive player. Steal blinds more according to your position. If your are reraised, continue with only strong hands.
 
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At least you can play 2-3 hours before you start your downfall. My max i can stay in the tournament in 1- 1 hour and a half. When blinds go up and I`m done. I know strategy for this part of the tournaments is more pot steal than play with good hand, but this can only happen if you are in positon. Waiting for position or good hand you will get bored and less concentrated in the game. Idk how to overcome that.
 
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Time isn't your enemy. It's that you haven't learned and/or don't appropriately apply the adjustments you should in the middle and late stages. By then, the stacks have gotten much shallower and the average strength of the remaining players is quite probably higher. You can't realistically expect to play the same way and to continue being as effective as early on.
 
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I agree with some of each response from all of you so far in this period but late game'm more cautious, do a mixed game not only hope but try to play good hands in positions too. But I still need to study more and more
 
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1. Discipline, do what you would do, never do what you would not do

2. The ability to adapt, if rules at the table changes you must change too, if you don't, others will suck you out - have seen many players being bigstack, 4 people at the table changes and he loses it all
 
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You could play tighter when you have a deep stack and wait from premium hands a lot of times it comes down too luck i had A J suited short stack in the Big Blind with 4 Big Blinds left 1 player put's me all in i call player flips over A 10 off and flops 2 pair and i'm out when your short stack it seems that luck isn't on my side even with the best hand preflop that's why i mostly play free rolls :icon_blac :smokin:
 
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I honestly don't think strategy changes much from early play. Don't bluff a short stack or a big stack. Look for good spots to steal. Be agressive, play position. Your options really just depend on stack sizes.

I think the biggest difference is in the early stages you get 3-5 players to a flop for a limp or small raise. You can see more flops and get paid off when you hit big. In middle to late stages most pots will be raised and heads up. Hitting a hand is less important and the aggressor in these spots is going to win the majority of the time.

Maybe play some heads up NL to get experience
 
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all logics and strategies I've read and assimilated, but in practice it is very difficult to do what the book teaches that professional players do. I more and more of a player freeroll these tecinas and logic do not work because there are always a crazy to pay Allin with ridiculous hands (ex: 72off).
 
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Usually in the middle position its depend on how much stack are you left with.If you stack is double or triple than what you start with then you can resume play normally.But if your stack is much more than that you should try to take advantage over the weaker opponent by raising three bet more frequently.But then again if you stack is lower that what you start with just wait for the monster hand and try to go all in against the bully.Godd luck at the table.


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increase ur blind steaking, i think
 
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I hear what you are saying. I have the same issue sometimes. I can run as chip leader for the first two hours and come bubble time I'm barely making it at times. I think the biggest factor is the weaker players are being filtered out by the time we get to these late stages, so adjustments need to be made according to the strength of your tables players. Any free time you have should be spent making notes on players for future reference.
 
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you should be using your chips to pick off the shallower stacks, the players at the table will fear you, they'll respect your c-bets and your blind steals as you have the power to bust them, use this to help build and maintain a big stack.
 
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I do not think this is a big mistake in your game. Each of us becomes more cautious when there are fewer players. You just have to make the most of every hand you play, perhaps the right bet or raise is the best answer to your question.
Good Luck!
 
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