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My hand comes KQ of H's in the small blind and naturally, depending on position, I will raise at least 2 1/2 to 3 or bigger. I've got 33,000 to his 25,550. Gentleman in the big blind calls and flop come KQ9, all of D's. I bet the pot size, roughly 3000, and he waits a few moments and smooth calls. Blank for the both of us, 4 of C. I raise half of his stack , in the 9200 range and he waits a few moments and shoves. I'm thinking this over and in earlier hands he had been raising and on showdown he would have the hands that won. I was thinking in those hands he hadn't made any play similar to this. I call with top two pair and he shows A of D and a 9 of S and the river comes a 4 of D. Was this a bad call or a good call? Seems hands like this can turn my tourney. Thoughts anyone?
 
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i dont have too much experience with mtts, but i think you need to do some homework on your bet sizing. that was just one of those hands that you were supposed to lose in a mtt, you just made it expansive by playing way too aggressive on that flop/turn, i know your opponent played it worse but u shouldnt have played that aggressive out of position against a +/- deep stack. especially sb vs bb
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bad call without a big diamond, you are OOP, he has big draw in his range and fold equity.
 
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I like the play. dont ever imagine he flopped the flush as that is just way too rare to happen. If you got that unlucky so be it. You got your money in good and lost. Just suck it up and move on.

by the way im shoving turn.,to make him pay for his slim running draws.
 
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So 3 D's come out on the flop, you bet. He probably had you on a D flush draw, same as him, but since the K and Q are on the board and he holds the A, he knows the best you could have is a J, so he calls the 3000. 4th street comes out blank. IMO here's where you made your mistake, you bet too much. He knows 4th street couldn't have helped you and may have viewed your bet as an attempt to steal, so he shoves. I personally would have folded knowing I only have 2 pair and there's a chance he could already have the flush, or hit it on the river. Even you said he only raises when he has a hand. You over thought the solid knowledge you already had about how he played.

When 4th street rolled around I personally would have made a smaller bet to see if he C/R'd or just smooth called. If he raises, I fold my hand. If he calls, I check the river, if he bets I fold.

With that being said, I don't think he played the hand that great either.
 
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So 3 D's come out on the flop, you bet. He probably had you on a D flush draw, same as him, but since the K and Q are on the board and he holds the A, he knows the best you could have is a J, so he calls the 3000.
With that flop, and a pre-flop raiser bets in to me I read it as most likely he hit the K or Q, has a good hand, but wants to bet out any medium-ish flush draws. A full pot bet doesn't read flush draw to me. If it was half pot or maybe 3/4, then I could see that as being more likely.

He could have lowered his bet amounts, so as to not force the guy to re-shove (the guy really did have no option but to either fold or shove), but other than that he got his money in with the best hand. I don't see a big problem with that.
 
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given the sizing you made it you can't fold but i really think leading pot on the flop is wwaayyyy to big
 
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As I have thought about it, never did I think I got too aggressive. On the other hand though, I do now. The smaller raise gives me the option to fold if he would of shoved. But as it was mentioned, I was at a point of being committed so it was very hard to lay it down. Judging by the way it went, I do believe he would of shoved cause at that point he would of wanted me to fold without seeing the river in case he didn't hit that D.. Thanks all!!
 
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