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Today i have been on an adventure. I have split my time between freerolls and those super micro turbos. 300 chips to start. I have more cashes than not and 2x as many 1st places as 2nd so here's my ideas on a good way to play these, however I am no expert

1st of all, be patient. even though you are shortstacked. everyone else is too. No need to go crazy with suited connectors or weak suited aces.
2nd AK in these are just about as good as AA. Since players are so short stacked to begin with, they will ship it with any ace so if you see big slick take that mofo for a walk.
3rd small and medium pocket pair are pretty raggish preflop from early position. At best your flipping and at worst you're crushed.
4th It's pretty much all in or fold till your 3 maybe 4 handed. Don't get cute, just shove.
5th There is NO starting hand good enough to call 2+ all ins preflop. Even the beloved AA should be folded. I know, you are saying I am crazy but AA and KK are much weaker in multiway pots. Just fold.
6th Down to 2 or 3 handed, be patient. As long as you have chips, you can make a run. If you are patient, you will often find yourself heads up trailing 2-1 in chips. No worries. You still have plenty of time to double up twice.

Anyways these are just my thoughts from today. More to come throughout the week. Good results to follow
 
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Here's a video on playing micro turbos. After watching this videos my win rate rate and cash rate skyrocketed
 
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patience is always key in tourneys!! i never understand the concept of shoving all in in the first few hands!! also agree with when u get down to 3 or 4 players just shove!! LOL lots of good advice!!
 
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I try and make sure I shove with something that doesn't need a lot of help.
2 reason why people shove early on.
1. They are terribly weak players who need a big stack to absorb their bad play
2. They didn't pay for any of the chips. They don't care about them. Theirs always another freeroll. Always another .06 tourney
 
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Today i have been on an adventure. I have split my time between freerolls and those super micro turbos. 300 chips to start. I have more cashes than not and 2x as many 1st places as 2nd so here's my ideas on a good way to play these, however I am no expert

1st of all, be patient. even though you are shortstacked. everyone else is too. No need to go crazy with suited connectors or weak suited aces.
If you have less than 5 BB any suited ace is a shove ,esp in an un-opened pot.(IMO)
2nd AK in these are just about as good as AA. Since players are so short stacked to begin with, they will ship it with any ace so if you see big slick take that mofo for a walk.
I agree here.
3rd small and medium pocket pair are pretty raggish preflop from early position. At best your flipping and at worst you're crushed.
I disagree here. esp in 6max. If your playing hyper turbos anything above average is a shove from any position. ESP pp.(this is only my opinion,not the law)
4th It's pretty much all in or fold till your 3 maybe 4 handed. Don't get cute, just shove.
Agreed.
5th There is NO starting hand good enough to call 2+ all ins preflop. Even the beloved AA should be folded. I know, you are saying I am crazy but AA and KK are much weaker in multiway pots. Just fold.
I couldnt disagree with you more here. never fold AA or KK preflop even if there are 10 people in the pot.
6th Down to 2 or 3 handed, be patient. As long as you have chips, you can make a run. If you are patient, you will often find yourself heads up trailing 2-1 in chips. No worries. You still have plenty of time to double up twice.
this is great advice.

Anyways these are just my thoughts from today. More to come throughout the week. Good results to follow

nice thoughts man. in general though, when your playing 6 max hyper turbos(500starting stack).
Its always good to either fold or shove. there is no room for maneuveuring. Usually any pocke pairs, any suited aces A8 and above, any suited broadways are good for shoving assuming your less than 5 BBdeep. thats my personal strategy. i could be way off here. Also it would be good to look into M.
 
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while I agree, any 2 broadway are good enough to shove. I wouldn't call with less than AJ unless you have a fishy opponent that's going to call with A7 suited. Ak is pretty much the nuts. You'll get called from all the way down to AT easy. KQ KJ KT ever K9. Once your down to the bubble, you have a good chance at stealing blinds to stay afloat depending on their calling range. With small pocket pair, usually you are flipping. In early position i just started folding these rags unless i am heads up or down to the final 3. Try and pick hands that will be the best by the river. I think pp have great implied odds in deep stacks and in tourneys for cleaning someone out but if you have 55 and the board pairs 6s and 7s. Just my thoughts. uber tight, uber selective calling range. You can jam with almost anything you want
 
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all your points are not valid at all.

it won't last.

all of a sudden patience won't do any good any more because when you finally catch something, somebody will catch better by the river.
all of a sudden your AK will run into some other hand, like 88 and you'll start losing the flips and furthermore, there will be a high percentage of time when suddenly your AK will lose to A3 when they catch their lucky 3 or their wheel on the river.

all of a sudden, you'll wish you didn't start folding AA and KK preflop because you'll start to observe other people winning with those hands after a raise and a reraise.

while either shoving or folding preflop may be the right idea, all of a sudden you'll start to see your better hands not holding up and your worse ones not outdrawing either.

all of a sudden, when you make it down to 2 handed or 3 handed and playing patiently, hoping to double up twice, you'll find it's not happening for you any more.
 
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If you're not getting it in bad... you're not getting it in enough!
 
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Might I suggest spending a bit of time watching through some Hyper Turbo HUSnG videos as well? I've been playing the 6max version of these hypers pretty extensively lately (currently with a 6.5% ROI over aprox 1,600 games... not the greatest sample size I know, however I did go through a 100 buy in down swing so feel it's not too bad.. b4 that I was at 17.2% ROI) Since the HU phase is so significant to your ROI, it's super important to maximize those HU wins.
 
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