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Generally speaking, middle position, limp in with low pair , no raises. Flop has all over cards but you now have 4 to a straight. No flush draws. Because you have the "idiot" end of a straight draw, if you are now checked to, what is a good play?
 
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Depends on the size of the blinds, tournament phases, the style of opponent and him position. Without this information, it is difficult to say something.
 
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My first point is not to limp, unless you hit a set you are not going to like any flop especially as you don't have the betting lead.
 
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How many opponents are there?

Anyway, personally I would check too. Any caller/s if I bet makes me wonder where I stand.
 
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I would play aggressively and try to steal it
 
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Describe the situation in detail and clearly. How can I give advice when it is not known how many people are playing, a stack of who and what throws on the table, what is your position.
 
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This is a pot where you don't stand to win very much from but there's a great opportunity to loose everything you put in. There's already a straight draw on the board and you could be drawing dead. The more people in the pot, the more likely it is that someone has an 8. If that's the case, you make a set and they make a straight. If someone has a 5,6 or 7 they have you beat. In any of these cases with that flop, they are probably checking but that doesn't mean they won't call. The risk/reward on this hand isn't worth it.
The best bet on this hand is to check/fold. If you make it to the end and win a few blinds then great. If not, you didn't lose big on it.

That's a flop you hope to get when you have 89 and some one else has pocket 4's that they can't give up on.
 
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defiantly need more info to better answer the question
 
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In the most of cases I entry to game with low pair for only set. And ready to drop to any aggression. If opponents are not too weak and predictable.
 
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Low peers without aggressiveness of opponents is a great fist. No action of the villains I play quite aggressive.
 
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hi
it depends of the blinds and your position post flop
besides its very important if you have the overpair or the smallest pair there
with overpair you can play strong and bet or raise
with the smallest pair check or call a small bet
 
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I would give up. Low pair against higher cards or more than one player is suicide.
 
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I usually out of position limp with low pairs, I know limp is wrong but at tournaments for sure someone will raise, 3bet or shove all in, so I just limp and consider pay some raise/3bet depending the blinds size, if dont hit a set or see scaring draws at flop just check/fold.
 
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If you didn't hit the set at flop, check/fold.
 
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Stands to be a win a little or lose a lot scenario. I would try to get to showdown cheaply and fold to any aggression. Ie. be done with the hand pretty much. And as a rule of thumb, never open limp xcept maybe a few rare scenarios.
 
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Stands to be a win a little or lose a lot scenario. I would try to get to showdown cheaply and fold to any aggression. Ie. be done with the hand pretty much. And as a rule of thumb, never open limp xcept maybe a few rare scenarios.

I know its a mistake limp but what if is final stage of a tournament and you are in early position with a pocket of 4's or 5's ? Will you raise 2~3x and the villain shove all in then you will need fold and loses 3 bb that in final stages of tournaments means a great % of the stack.
 
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You have to remember that decisions on hands have to take into account many factors. For example hands you might play in the early stages of a tourney you wouldn't play in the later stages.
 
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Low pairs are good or not to play on late stages ?
 
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You have to decide what you are comfortable with. You can play low pairs but you have to consider you table position, stack sizes ,how aggressive the table is, the bubble, etc.etc.
 
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how high is the pot and which overcards hit? How many people are in the pot? How many people called after you and before the button? Were the blinds getting good pot odds if they were in the hand? If you had something like 66 and the flop was 789-r, Then betting might not be a bad idea if there are only 3 to the flop, if there are 2 to the flop you may be able to bet 1/3 or 2/5pot size bet and get them off the hand. If you have something like 99 and the flop is 10JQ-r, I wouldnt' bet if there were 3 people in the hand, and the only way I would feel safe betting in isolation would be if the SB or BB were in the hand. How many people to the flop is going to be your biggest variable when answering this question, and honestly you haven't invested much, so you don't have much to lose and when there are 3 to the straight on the board it is so easy to overplay and overvalue your hand when you have the low end. The only time you want to make a semi-bluff w this hand is suggested above. You really shouldn't invest much more into this pot unless you are late in a tournament and the pot odds are great. I would definitely stay away from the hand if there are more than 4 people in the hand, I may only check call if i do hit my straight but more than likely im not investing anymore at this point. When is it in the tournament? or is this cash game? Either way the conclusion is clear there is no value to bet this flop when the hand is limped preflop. There is definitely no value in a cash game so you better know your opponents if you think of playing this hand at all in a cash game! The point here is value and once you limp in mid position w a hand like this and the flop is as described you shouldn't invest much more in the hand. Definitely not in a cash game! And just about the same in a tournament, unless its a really deep level. Then you should consider a small bet to see where you are and maybe be able to take/hit the hand on the turn/river. Good luck in future plays and remember value and the people you are playing against!
 
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Play with low pair is playing with luck
 
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I would open small and try take it down. as others have said ur very rarely going to like a flop
 
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I dont love play with low pair ussaly just call and see if you fleeps a set. in the flop.
 
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