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I find myself thinking all too often that I am just somehow very unlucky.
Also I find that I blame my play a lot and just lose confidence - big time.

I would like to try and post here significant hands, good or bad (will give them NUMBERS so you can refer to it) and I ask for feedback / quick evaluation - is it bad play/ good play/ good luck/ bad luck?


Not sure this can be done - just giving it a try - see if it will help me.

HAND # 1
$1500 freeroll - 282 players - 36 ITM - 1500 start chips - 10 min blinds
iPoker - Invitation+I0|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 1,565
BTN: 1,445
Hero (SB): 1,320
BB: 1,210
UTG: 2,146
UTG+1: 1,470
UTG+2: 1,380
MP: 1,974
MP+1: 990

Hero posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 90, Hero calls 75, BB raises to 270, BTN calls 180, Hero calls 180

Flop: (810, 3 players) 3 J 8
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 567, Hero raises to 1,050, BB calls 940, BTN calls 483

Turn: (3,850, 3 players) Q

River: (3,850, 3 players) A

BTN shows A J (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 13%, Flop 20%, Turn 24%)
Hero shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 22%, Flop 8%, Turn 10%)
BB shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 65%, Flop 72%, Turn 67%)
Hero wins 3,850

I took a chance - not proud of the play - I think I was lucky - probably would have folded in a significant BI game
 
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"I took a chance - not proud of the play - I think I was lucky - probably would have folded in a significant BI game"

YEP, YOU WERE LUCKY! What was 'basis' for raising 1,050 after that terrible flop? Bluffing? Bad time to bluff with only AQ suited (I think...but I have done it too and usually I regreted it).

Lucky for a "runner runner" (does not often happen) on Turn and River, but you could still have been easily beaten with trips or straight.

"Don't believe everything you think".

GL mate, Wally
 
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HAND # 2
same game as in HAND # 1

iPoker - Invitation+I0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 11,554
MP: 7,670
MP+1: 2,080
Hero (CO): 3,090
BTN: 1,457
SB: 2,842
BB: 2,424
UTG: 4,360

SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 150) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 200, Hero raises to 400, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 200

Flop: (950, 2 players) J A 8
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (950, 2 players) 7
MP+1 bets 300, Hero calls 300

River: (1,550, 2 players) 6
MP+1 bets 775, Hero calls 775

MP+1 shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 25%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 75%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
MP+1 wins 3,100

I think I did not play bad - was more UL - I figured my opponent does not have flush, was expecting to be ahead.
 
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HAND #3
same game as in HAND #1


iPoker - Invitation+I0|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 8,958
MP+1: 6,738
CO: 7,620
BTN: 3,025
Hero (SB): 1,175
BB: 735
UTG: 3,212
UTG+1: 3,548
UTG+2: 5,019

Hero posts SB 80, BB posts BB 160

Pre Flop: (pot: 240) Hero has 7:club: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 320, fold, Hero raises to 1,175 and is all-in, fold, CO calls 855

Flop: (2,510, 2 players) 9:club: 2:club: Q:diamond:

Turn: (2,510, 2 players) 6:heart:

River: (2,510, 2 players) 3:heart:

CO shows 2:diamond: T:diamond: (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 40%, Flop 75%, Turn 86%)
Hero mucks 7:club: A:heart: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 60%, Flop 25%, Turn 14%)
CO wins 2,510

I think I did the right play simply UL- finished 108th place
 
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HAND # 4
Freeroll with top 100 getting nice tourney coupons - over 2K entrants


888 Poker - $0+$0|15/30 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): 1,470
MP+1: 2,035
CO: 1,140
BTN: 1,785
SB: 1,470
BB: 1,280
UTG: 3,040
UTG+1: 1,290
UTG+2: 1,470

SB posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has K:club: A:heart:

UTG calls 30, fold, UTG+2 raises to 60, Hero raises to 90, MP+1 raises to 2,035, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls 1,410, Hero calls 1,380

Flop: (4,485, 3 players) 9:heart: 6:spade: Q:diamond:

Turn: (4,485, 3 players) T:club:

River: (4,485, 3 players) 4:diamond:

Hero shows K:club: A:heart: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 35%, Flop 23%, Turn 10%)
MP+1 shows T:spade: T:heart: (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 47%, Flop 68%, Turn 90%)
UTG+2 shows 2:club: 2:diamond: (One Pair, Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 wins 4,485

Same type of game - would do the same thing - have to gamble - freeroll - 100 winners - the outcome - well was a flip and I lost.
 
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Why do you always min 3bet preflop?

Standard 3bet sizing early in tournaments is at least 2.5x and usually 3x the initial raise.

When stacks get short M <~15ish then 3bet shoving is usually the best option.

First hand:

3bet preflop vs the button open all day. Then probably fold when KK jams over and AJ fish probably calls but oh well (unless you have confirmed that villians are maniacs).

hand2

Again 3bet larger with hopes of getting it in pre flop.

As played, what reason do you have for checking behind? This is a freeroll bet for value. Yeah it so happened you got unlucky here but there are so many droolers willing to get it in with less then top pair top kicker that you have to bet for value here always and probably get it in vs a raise on the flop

hand#3

Very standard shove spot here imo, good job.

hand#4

you already know... 3bet larger preflop. and yes getting it in here is absolutely fine especially considering it is a freeroll.



good luck at the tables.
 
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I will be playing a few games in bodog (Bodava), unfortunately can't get hand hyst from there :( so can't ask for feedback. I will try (maybe) to post particularly significant hands - doing the best I can with providing info.

AND - for anyone interested there are some AWESOME games on for a few days at BODOG - and they have stellites to them in the 2 hours before the game.
Games are starting between 9:00 and 10:00 pm est - look at the schedule below.
 

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I find myself thinking all too often that I am just somehow very unlucky.
Also I find that I blame my play a lot and just lose confidence - big time.

I would like to try and post here significant hands, good or bad (will give them NUMBERS so you can refer to it) and I ask for feedback / quick evaluation - is it bad play/ good play/ good luck/ bad luck?


Not sure this can be done - just giving it a try - see if it will help me.

HAND # 1
$1500 freeroll - 282 players - 36 ITM - 1500 start chips - 10 min blinds
iPoker - Invitation+I0|<> NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 1,565
BTN: 1,445
Hero (SB): 1,320
BB: 1,210
UTG: 2,146
UTG+1: 1,470
UTG+2: 1,380
MP: 1,974
MP+1: 990

Hero posts SB 15, BB posts BB 30

Pre Flop: (pot: 45) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 90, Hero calls 75, BB raises to 270, BTN calls 180, Hero calls 180

Flop: (810, 3 players) 3 J 8
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets 567, Hero raises to 1,050, BB calls 940, BTN calls 483

Turn: (3,850, 3 players) Q

River: (3,850, 3 players) A

BTN shows A J (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 13%, Flop 20%, Turn 24%)
Hero shows Q A (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 22%, Flop 8%, Turn 10%)
BB shows K K (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 65%, Flop 72%, Turn 67%)
Hero wins 3,850

I took a chance - not proud of the play - I think I was lucky - probably would have folded in a significant BI game



In this hand you were very lucky. If I was on your place, I would never made re-raise, contrary I would go fold, because the flop was really bad for your cards. However, well done for your move, it was really nice sense :)
 
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here is one - I just have to post - no comment
 

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HAND # 6
I think I'm done for the day.
Really I don;t want to conclude that I am just UL.
I'm trying to hope that it is bad play and I can - I CAN make a difference - just have to play better - but it's on and on .... getting real hard
Was all -in pre of course. Just over an hour in the game - I could not get ahead at all during the hour - got 2 steals that was all.
 

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I played one more game $1 - freeze in Bodog. Was playing totally like a maniac - throwing in all my chips nearly every hand. Hoping I work the tilt out of my system.
Real crazy thing - I became the chip leader.
27 people paid top prize $51 - about 100 people left - I started playing normal again.
Kept staying in top 10, a bit higher a bit lower - but doing ok.
Eventually with 37 players left me in 5th place - on the button I got AT d .. flop was T high, I bet pot size - fellow that had me barely covered called - and so we did after turn - still board was T high, river was Q - I went all-in - he called with Q7 and I was out.

What should I do?
I really am so frustrated.
 
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Just remember the MTT grind is a tough one.

Just keep playing solid poker and results will eventually begin to show long as you are making winning decisions more often then not.
 
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Just remember the MTT grind is a tough one.

Just keep playing solid poker and results will eventually begin to show long as you are making winning decisions more often then not.

Thanks - much appreciate the encouragement!

It is a new day - new dreams new hopes - (LOL true so far one was crushed) - but hey, it is Saturday - many more dreams to be chased are out there! :D

GOOD LUCK TO ALL!

PS. I really try to make the good decisions - but I am so shaken that I'm not sure I am making them or not. That was the real reason I started the thread - but it became - just so it happened - a bad beat wailing place - sorry folks did not intend it to be one.
 
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HAND #1
I'm not looking to play AQ suited out of position in a multi way pot. vs a late position raiser, so I'm probably re-raising with it to just take down the pot preflop. Its plenty strong enough to re-raise with vs. the button's range. Then if the BB 4 bets, I probably fold. Given that the BB re-raised my flat call, that doesn't give me too much information, so I guess I might call his raise there too...but with the BB and Button being so interested in the hand, and I'll have the worst position I might also just fold...

On the flop, you've totally whiffed and it's a 3 way pot. I'm inclined to check fold. The big check raise pretty much can only represent a set here and it is extremely likely somebody has a pocket pair or a J so this is not a great spot to bluff. They either have to believe you have a set of 3s or 8s because you would have reraised with JJ preflop so the bluff just isn't believable.

so yeah....you got lucky. We all gotta get lucky sometimes!
 
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HAND # 2
same game as in HAND # 1

iPoker - Invitation+I0|<> NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 11,554
MP: 7,670
MP+1: 2,080
Hero (CO): 3,090
BTN: 1,457
SB: 2,842
BB: 2,424
UTG: 4,360

SB posts SB 50, BB posts BB 100

Pre Flop: (pot: 150) Hero has A K

fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 200, Hero raises to 400, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 200

Flop: (950, 2 players) J A 8
MP+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (950, 2 players) 7
MP+1 bets 300, Hero calls 300

River: (1,550, 2 players) 6
MP+1 bets 775, Hero calls 775

MP+1 shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 25%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 75%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
MP+1 wins 3,100

I think I did not play bad - was more UL - I figured my opponent does not have flush, was expecting to be ahead.


Hand #2
I think you should bet the flop. He probably would have check raised you and then you've got a tough decision to make but I still think betting here is optimal. Especially since you want to be C-betting a fair amount of the time and if the table sees that you'll check/slowplay TPTK they might view your future flop bets as weak.

also, you're giving him a free card to beat you (assuming you're not already beat, which you were).

If you're going to call 2 streets of value with TPTK, you should bet it on the flop I think.

On the river I think your call is correct. You can't be bluffed out by the hearts which he is unlikely to have.

All in all you just got unlucky. Optimal play would have likely cost you more money, unless he maybe reraised huge on the flop or you had a really strong read.
 
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Hand #3 well played.
you got unlucky.
 
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Hand #4
you should reraise a lot more than 1.5x the initial raise. In a normal game I'd be inclined to raise to about 3x or 3.5x the initial raise, so about 180 or 210. Because it's a freeroll I might just shove with it.

Either way same outcome because the tens are never folding and sounds like the deuces didn't want to go anywhere either.
 
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The 2 Bovada hand histories you posted are probably pretty standard bad luck hands. Of course we can't see the betting progression, but it would be perfectly reasonable for you to get it all in at any point in either of those hands....so that just sucked.

I played one more game $1 - freeze in Bodog. Was playing totally like a maniac - throwing in all my chips nearly every hand. Hoping I work the tilt out of my system.
Real crazy thing - I became the chip leader.
27 people paid top prize $51 - about 100 people left - I started playing normal again.
Kept staying in top 10, a bit higher a bit lower - but doing ok.
Eventually with 37 players left me in 5th place - on the button I got AT d .. flop was T high, I bet pot size - fellow that had me barely covered called - and so we did after turn - still board was T high, river was Q - I went all-in - he called with Q7 and I was out.

What should I do?
I really am so frustrated.

As for this hand, AT is a fine hand to play as a big stack to try and bully some medium stacks. and if you get called by a short stack and you actually flop TPTK it is a fine hand to take to the river if a short stack shoves on you.

But being that you got called by another big stack, this is not even close to a good enough hand to go to war with with so much at stake. You simply don't need to win this pot. there will be easier spots to make chips, and you'd probably make a nice payday by just blinding out for a while. I'm not suggesting to sit out, but that you majorly want to pot control in a big stack vs. big stack clash. You have to realize that even though he's got you covered he's afraid of you too...typically when I have a big stack and I get called by another big stack I assume they've got a really strong hand because normally if they're a decent player we'll be staying out of eachother's ways as much as possible (now this guy was in imbecile for playing this way....but still I'd be pot controlling the heck out of this hand).
 
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