lol @ how tilty 6max hyper turbos are.

Jesus wept.

I had mega tilt after 15minutes of playing these bloody things.

I decided tonight, I was going to play the "The Big $11.00" and I could afford to buy directly in easily enough but for some strange reason I thought it would be a good idea to play the 6max HT with 2 getting a seat @ $3.67 a pop.

Five minutes in I was cursing like hell with $15.00 down and laughed at how I could of just bought in. Anyway I just got all addicted and kept opening the buggers up till I cashed in one lol.........I eventually managed to with a few others but was down about 8dollars after this campaign.

I've now decided HT really arent for me...hell I could of quite easily of donked of a lot..

have you played super turbos on FTP? I'm assuming they're similiar?

Wait, what... you started playing hyper turbos, and found a way to stop?!

I've played quite a few 6-max super turbos on FTP and Merge (which, as mentioned, are probably similar to PS's hypers), and I don't know that I could ever go back to those slow-ass "turbo" STT SnGs ever again. Boggles the mind what those low-blind levels are even for

(Incidentally, they're not without their virtues. They'll really hammer ICM and tilt-resistance into you, if you let them)

Poker Orifice said:

have you played super turbos on FTP? I'm assuming they're similiar?

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I've played one before a while back on full tilt yeah but these was on stars and hell, it was painful.

SYWTWAF said:

Wait, what... you started playing hyper turbos, and found a way to stop?!

I've played quite a few 6-max super turbos on FTP and Merge (which, as mentioned, are probably similar to PS's hypers), and I don't know that I could ever go back to those slow-ass "turbo" STT SnGs ever again. Boggles the mind what those low-blind levels are even for

(Incidentally, they're not without their virtues. They'll really hammer ICM and tilt-resistance into you, if you let them)

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Ha Ha. Yeaha, I tell you something they are very addictive indeed. ICM and tilt-resistance has no reason to be there with these, do you really thnk it applies to HT? I just coulden't see, it's nearly ATC allin after teh first round lol.

ramdeebam said:

Ha Ha. Yeaha, I tell you something they are very addictive indeed. ICM and tilt-resistance has no reason to be there with these, do you really thnk it applies to HT? I just coulden't see, it's nearly ATC allin after teh first round lol.

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I've never played hyper turbos on Stars, but for FTP's and Merge's super turbos, I swear there's a method to the madness! Or at least, that's what I'm out to prove to myself... Now, it could be that the structure of Stars' HTs is so much faster that there's a ton more madness than method.

I say it hammers home ICM because it instantly takes you to the late stages of an SnG, where, indeed, practically the only decisions you ever contemplate are either to push, fold, or call a shove. And playing enough of them improves your tilt-immunity because 50+ BI downswings become a way of life.

i played these hyper turbos a few times and i think u shouldn't play them if ur bankroll is small, because it depends more luck to win these sngs.
the advantage is, that they are really fast and u can made a lot of money if u got the suitable bankroll ... u wont care as much if got much money. u should play them beside ur real game and u wont drive crazy...

ramdeebam said:

ICM and tilt-resistance has no reason to be there with these, do you really thnk it applies to HT? I just coulden't see, it's nearly ATC allin after teh first round lol.

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ICM is crucial because there are times when you should be folding Aces with like 6bb

Pascal LeFiscal said:

ICM is crucial because there are times when you should be folding Aces with like 6bb

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After 2minutes though and 3-4 hands later, you usually only have less than 6 bb/s anyway.

What's the statergy in these then? What I mean is, any two cards get shoved in most hands that are played. I can't see a "good" strategy that holds well in these, it does seem more of a luck factor than anything else.

It's just about shoving/calling ranges, and even with a handful of bbs there are such things.

I've always liked shorthanded sit n goes, but the rake on them is so killer. Then add in a smaller edge with turbo/super turbo/etc and I'm not sure they are even that beatable :S

Pascal LeFiscal said:

ICM is crucial because there are times when you should be folding Aces with like 6bb

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Can you give an example? I can't readily think of a situation where I would voluntarily fold aces preflop in these things...

Variance is high in these but 'yes' for 100% sure there is a means to the madness... shove/fold game, ICM. I know of a couple guys who've played 10,000+ of these & ran with ROI of +1-2%. Alot of people play real bad in these, esp. at the lowest buyins but if you move up you'll see quite a difference.
If you're unable to see how these should be played... or the strategy to them (it's late game SNG play to the max.) then I'd suggest not playing in them.

SYWTWAF said:

Can you give an example? I can't readily think of a situation where I would voluntarily fold aces preflop in these things...

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OK maybe less than 6bb...but with two players getting a seat, if there were two 7bb stacks and a 3bb stack all in ahead of you and you've got 2bb and look down at aces, you should fold because as long as one of the 7bb stacks wins you get a seat

Yeah!
Those are so sick.
Hyperturbos have made me broke so many times. You shouldn't play those.
You need to have a special strategy to earn $$ by playing those.

Not a big fan of these, I kinda see the need for turbos online cos not everyone can give up hours of their time to play against conservative players with a slow blinds structure

Don't play the HT's on PS where you start with 500 chips anymore, lost too much to bad luck!

not necessarily donk fests, just late-level MTT play like someone else said, pretty much all the way thru...no reason to raise 3xBB or anything ever, just limp into a pot if ur willing to go allin with it to a raise, and if u get to see a limp flop take it, if not call the shove...never play a hand that you wouldnt go allin with, EVER...its a pretty simple approach and it takes away all of the thinking involved, i like them a lot

Ignore above advice, the key to these is stealing chips