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Hey guys whats up? I'm Devan I have been a member for a while but never really post on here. I am 24 years old and have been playing strictly 10/20 cash games since I was 16. But recently i decided to start playing free roll tournaments a local bar holds every night here in Texas. Its a good pay out at $5 a head with an average of 30-40 players. Here is my problem, I am not a tourney player and these donkeys are the worst poker players I have ever seen in my life calling with anything and hitting everything. And I am sorry if this may be a dumb question, but i am a cash player not a tournament player, But does any one have any good tips as to beating these kinds of players in a tournament setting? Thanks for any tips and advice.

-Devan
 
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Hey thanks for the link dino, I must have over looked that, And the reason is i want to try to become a more diverse player if that makes sense?
 
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I'm having the opposite problem. I'm running deep and have a solid MTTs game, but when it comes to cash games, I crumble. Do you have any advice? Thanks
 
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How to win freerolls

The "secret" I have found is playing tight aggressive. In my experience (and I play A LOT of those things) is that early in the tournament, you want to only play big pairs or big connectors when your in early position, and when you play them, come in with a healthy raise of 3 1/2-4 times the BB. In late position and on the button you can open your range, but continue to come in raising strong. Build a tight image during the early stages and it will pay off when the loose callers start dropping out. You may only have a medium size stack, but then you can open up because the players with the big stacks tend to get very tight and will fold a lot and the small stacks are just waiting for hands to double up. Tournament poker is very different than cash games but you can conquer it with a few adjustments to your strategy.
 
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Do the right skills and do fold a lot of hands. Never give up.
 
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np man

Hey thanks for the link dino, I must have over looked that, And the reason is i want to try to become a more diverse player if that makes sense?

and don't be afraid to ask any question on this forum, we have a great bunch of people and someone will chime soon with advice/tip

welcome to CC
 
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Just play with Strong hands and be agressive. Don´t wait for the river.
 
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Thanks for the tips guys I actually made it to final table out of 8 starting tables last night
 
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I am not an expert in MTT but this is what I usually do:

1) Be very tight and aggressive during early stage
2) Open up your range during middle stage and 3bet/steal blinds more often
3) Open up your range further during the money bubble if you have medium-deep stake, if not play tight
4) Play your normal game

And thats about it. Good luck!
 
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I have been working on the areas that you guys have mentioned and a few other areas of my tourney play, And i went from getting busted very early by donks every single night to making final table 3/5 times this week at my local bar.
 
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You need to be very patient in these tournaments and get yourself in isolation. The best thing to do is get to the flop and make sure you are ahead and then make your move against the donkeys. I know that more than likely they are pushing preflop so try not to get yourself in a race situatino, you want to make sure you are a 4-1 or 5-1 favorite if you are putting your entire chip stack at risk. But once you manipulate your chips high enough you can start making moves against the weaker players that are trying to race, say when its only 1/4 of your chipstack or so to race, then you are safe to try to take some chances, but until then be patient and wait until you have hands that have them completely dominated. Make sure you note which players are gambling and which players are playing poker, there is a huge difference and its usually easy to spot. Once youve done that you can put them on hand ranges and don't think that they wont have 2 pair with a dry board if they are just gambling. They play very stupid and very loose so try to keep the pots low at the beginning and get your chips up against the players that are playing stupid or tight. Just make sure you have a very strong hand when you put your entire chip stack at risk, but once you have a large chip stack then you can start taking chances against them and get them in some race situations or 60/40s. Good luck in future tournaments, hope this helps.
 
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I'm having the opposite problem. I'm running deep and have a solid MTTs game, but when it comes to cash games, I crumble. Do you have any advice? Thanks

The same as me... Sometimes I risk playing 6max cash games because its more agressive, if you play agressive in tournaments maybe you can try 6max tables
 
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great job man, keep up keeping up
 
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Aggressive play when you have hand.
Aggressive play when you are in late position with a small pair and no bets ahead of you unless you have a slowplayer.
Get yourself in a position to be be seen as a nonbluffer.
 
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It is different ways you can approach it and be successful but my strategy is simply be PATIENT and wait on the right hand to play. You are gonna fold a lot but play the good hands and you will last in the tournament.
 
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Best way to play a group of donks to play fundamentally sound poker and hope you don't get unlucky.
 
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Politico said what I was going to post lol
 
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It's a fact that transitioning from cash games to tourneys is easier than the other way around, I used to play cash games back in the day myself, but I started playing MTTs and SNGs and never really turned back.

You want to learn to play different stack sizes (shortstack and deepstack) learn the push or fold ranges. You also have to be able to identify the stages of a tournament (early, middle, bubble, late) and be able to adjust your play accordingly. Honestly there's not much else to add, you've been doing everything else in cash games.
 
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against donkeys you got to value bet, value bet, value bet, lather rinse repeat
 
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There are good cash game players who do not fit the tournaments and vice versa, but I believe that can happen often when you play against opponents who pay all is:

Play with strong hands and try to be aggressive, do cost you an arrival the river. So you force your opponents to play with technically stronger hands and reduce their loss to bad beats. But be aware, any call in an aggressive move could mean a significant loss of your stack.

I believe that if they play with up to 40 players for the tournament, the first hour will be able to book just play with strong hands and pairs (with pairs below 6, recommend a min-raise pre-flop, somewhere around 2x). After the first hour of play, where we have fewer players, the situation of strong hands starts to become somewhat hazardous to your hopes, by the rise of the blinds and the game starts to become more concentrated, with average hands can be played calls only.
 
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As long as you play tight and aggressive and have a good Push/Fold game you'll be fine~!
 
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Its a good pay out at $5 a head with an average of 30-40 players.

Wow, I just can't believe that you all found a a bar that's willing to give you guys 150-200 bucks a night just to play poker there. You guys must buy a LOT of beer lol.
 
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the only tip is play suited hands and other that u like
 
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Against bad players you have to no when to fold them, Early on in freerolls or low buy in tournys. I will only play High pair or Ax suited connectors, unless I get lucky and can limp in (in position) to much bad luck on my side lol
 
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