Limping or open limping on the button

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Let's suppose that I have a marginal hand and I am on the button, should I ever be limping? There are two different situations that I encounter quite often in 9 player SNGs.

1. Somebody has limped before me. In this situation I will bet quite a wide range of hands, such as low pocket pairs, if the blinds are big enough to be worth contesting. Should I actually be raising (or folding) instead?

2. Everybody else has folded. Here I am not playing such a wide range but I will generally raise my standard raise of 2.5bb, however I see quite a few people open limping on the button. Should I open limp on the button?

Collin Moshmann and Jason Somerville both keep making the point that nobody folds to a call but they might possibly fold to a raise. I do sometimes limp if I have a good hand on the button and know that SB or BB are very aggressive, but that's not really relevant to this question.
 
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1. If someone limped before you should ask yourself some question, 1. if someone will raise after you will be ready to call with your hand? but my advice if you are in button with a marginall hand you can try in 40% of cases to raise in 30% to fold and in another 30% to limp, it dependends on who are after you and who is before you.
2. I everybody folded and you are in button, raise for stealling and easy fold when you'll see power like 3 betting.
another advice is minimum 3BB to bet always
 
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it all depends on your position at the table and your hand. if you see something limp need to go all in with a wide range of hands. if you raise before the act on the environment.
 
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Limping is not good, if you feel you hand is not strong enough to open raise or make a rol, then fold preflop. The only situation that I would limp is with AA or KK when I have 8bb or less.
 
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1 : in my opinion is fold

2 : yes , I open limp on the button
 
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1. You can just call or may raise depending on your opponent.

2. Same above. If your hand is trash, throw it right away.
 
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Limping generally implies weakness, unless you're/they're trying to set a trap or something. There's always the chance someone is willing to see a flop with 7 2 off suit if it doesn't cost much, ie early in the tournament with 60 big blinds. What's 1/60th of a stack to potentially catch a monster?

Raising on the button, especially with a short stack is *usually* the correct play
 
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you can limo behind other limpers.

open limping the button is generally a no no. but there are situations where I will do it..

some of those situations might be. I have two nits in the blinds who will fold to my raise and I have a premium hand like qq or aa. I might limp there knowing the sb will fold often and then I can force the bb to play a pot. this situation is infrequent though.

the only other time I might do it is if the blinds are loose and I want to get into postflop situations with them I might limp instead of raise and go to a flop with a really high spr.
 
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overlimping def fine, but if u have garbage just fold
 
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depends on if this is the standard play at this table .....if you are comfortable playing after the flop then yes...go for it...if the bb or sb raise allin they may just have ace and are defending seeing an obvious steal post flop attempt....but many times aa or kk will limp trying to get a raise especially early position....then re raise and get a nifty profit...as AA and KK are either win a small pot or lose a big pot....with hands such as 78suited and Ax or Kx suited its fine to limp....as well as most pairs when you get into large pairs a raise is in order as to get rid of the sb and bb trying to spike a flop.....the % on AA KK OR QQ goes down rapidly the more people in....in poker especially when the blinds get high the chance of seeing premium hands only goes up...now a loose big stack will play from the hip raising any ace frequently and hands like ten j suited are raise and even 22 if possible late position blind rob...
 
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If there is nobody else in the pot, and you have no unique reads on the blinds you should be raising- if somebody else has already limped and the blinds are low then I think its ok to overlimp small pairs
 
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I'm not really sure, but for the most part I hear it's not good to be limping on the button. I think a lot of factors play into this decision. I have done it before when I felt like it was a good choice for the situation. I'd rather raise though.
 
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It is better to limp only from catt off or button, if you limp from early position you ll lose chips
 
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hi newbie here,
limping can sometimes be a good weapon,
but depends on postion/chips and the players around u,
i've limped 45 suited and hit gold before,but maybe i'm just lucky :)
 
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I do sometimes limp if I have a good hand on the button and know that SB or BB are very aggressive, but that's not really relevant to this question.

One would think they're thinking that there's a good chance you are stealing from BTN (unless you've never been opening from btn) so why limp in that spot with a good hand? (especially if they are 'very' aggressive... as in, they'll be playing back at you).
 
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Let's suppose that I have a marginal hand and I am on the button, should I ever be limping? There are two different situations that I encounter quite often in 9 player SNGs.

1. Somebody has limped before me. In this situation I will bet quite a wide range of hands, such as low pocket pairs, if the blinds are big enough to be worth contesting. Should I actually be raising (or folding) instead?

When you say 'bet'... you mean 'call' I'm assuming??

In your typical SnG, you only want to be doing this in the first level or two. Stacks are just not deep enough beyond that.
 
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Limping is not good, if you feel you hand is not strong enough to open raise or make a rol, then fold preflop. The only situation that I would limp is with AA or KK when I have 8bb or less.

I paid that price today... I limped KK UTG and the big blind flopped trips on the flop. I took a quick exit from the MTT. (We were both deep stacked too LOL)
 
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it all depends on opponents on small and big blind. if they are aggressive players play more often raise. and if passive but is often hard limp.
 
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Raise bette at a distance. Limp -more risk ,but it's a chance to win big pot
 
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Let's suppose that I have a marginal hand and I am on the button, should I ever be limping? There are two different situations that I encounter quite often in 9 player SNGs.

1. Somebody has limped before me. In this situation I will bet quite a wide range of hands, such as low pocket pairs, if the blinds are big enough to be worth contesting. Should I actually be raising (or folding) instead?

2. Everybody else has folded. Here I am not playing such a wide range but I will generally raise my standard raise of 2.5bb, however I see quite a few people open limping on the button. Should I open limp on the button?

Collin Moshmann and Jason Somerville both keep making the point that nobody folds to a call but they might possibly fold to a raise. I do sometimes limp if I have a good hand on the button and know that SB or BB are very aggressive, but that's not really relevant to this question.

I never open limp on the button because you actually TAKE AWAY your opponents ability to fold. Even if they WANT to fold, you've taken that option away from them. I like to keep that option open for my opponents.
 
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1 - in 1 table sit go it can be limp for me but we have to check this player who limped first if that possible

2 - raise
 
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It is better to limp only from catt off or button, if you limp from early position you ll lose chips
Totaly agree , you never know how many players after you will be raising or all in. Limp only in late position, or no limp att all , raising is allways best way
 
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OMG STOP IT JUST STOP IT

Any good player knows limping is a sign of weakness and I feel that you must RAISE or FOLD in any type of mtt or sng play. Why risk your chips with a marginal hand only to have 6 other players limp then you need to gauge how strong your hand is against 6 other marginal hands its just NEG EV every way you look at it. At least if you raise then and someone calls you know where you stand somewhat.
 
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yap

I allways limp if i have enough chips, with low stack fold or all in
 
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