Life after CC freeroll club tournaments

pentazepam said:

What is the problem with variance?

Especially since:

1. You have often better cards pre-flop and post when the money goes in against loose and wild players.

2. It is a Freeroll so you only pay with your time and not any money.

3. If you play against tighter opponent that also knows how to play endgame in tournaments you pretty soon (since the CC-freerolls have a pretty fast structure) come to a situation where the blinds are so high and the stacks so shallow that it becomes a pre-flop all-in or fold game.

That is also high variance.

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zinzir said:

The way I see it is this:
1. Are you a good player?
2. Are you playing for fun or for money?
If you are a good player and want to make money stay away from freerolls, even from Cardschat freerolls since that's simply not enough money to be made to be worth your while.

On top of the CC leaderboard sits MtCashman who made an impressive $3582.46 or an average $600/year since he joined CC in 2013. If he played only 200 freerolls a year and lasted only an average of 2 hours in each tournament, his hourly rate would be 1.5 dollars (most likely is even lower than that).

I never played against MtCashman myself, but just because he is a 6 year veteran and is on top of the leaderboard with a comfortable $1000 advantage over the second place, one can safely assume that he is the best or at least among the very best CC players.

A good player playing a 1/2 dollar table has an expected win rate of $20/hour live, and even more online due to faster hands and possibility of playing multiple tables, so at least 8 times more than the rate of the best CC player playing CC freerolls.

So in my opinion, one should play freerolls for the love of the game, as a form of entertainment, not as a way of making money.

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jadaminato said:

In recent weeks, for lack of time I have limited myself to playing only club tournaments. You always see some ridiculous things in the early stages but not many. Today I entered the intertop tournament and the two of ACR, all open to all members, and I have to say, they are wild! I had forgotten this kind of tournaments. The contrast with the club tournaments is huge and may sound very "weepy" but I find them almost unplayable. It seems impossible to take low variance options, all are all-in preflop and straigth and flush breaking premiun pairs. I was lucky with my aces but my kings did not resist the variance.
I just wanted to comment. Freerolls are a fish party. Reason for more to rate the club of this forum.



At what level of buy-in, you think, is the field more similar to CC tournaments?

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James_Harrison said:

Well they can help build a bankroll for grinding micros too.

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zinzir said:

Hey, I've just noticed, congratulations on your first place on the ACR anniversary tournament and $975 win. Exactly the kind of tournament you considered unplayable yesterday It makes starting this thread look like a premonition

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jadaminato said:

Thank you. It really looks like a premonition. I was lucky not to have many speculative hands at the beginning: premium or garbage. That facilitated my decisions.

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