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Hi, I normally play micro and low stakes regular freezout multi table tournaments that usually take 4-5 hours to get into the money and 7-9 hours to get near final table. I play one table at a time and try to focus on all elements of the play including: stage , opponents, tendencies , ranges , position etc. but the problem is that during one torney i got dealt let's say 500 hands average from which i play only 16% -23% of hands which is not many.
I wonder , wouldn't it be better for my poker development, wouldn't I learn more if I did multi-tabling and see more hands and more flops and make more decisions with limited information. I don't use HUD stats, so if i played few tables at a time I wouldn't be able to observe opponents and make plays based on it.
 
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I would agree that adding 1 or 2, maybe 3 tables would improve your development and learning as volume is increased. In short, you see more hads. I would be careful though and add only one table at a time, there is a fine line between maximising learning profits and restricting them when increasing tables.

For most players an increase in table leads to a decrease in win rate per table, especially at first, which is only compensated for by the greater volume. Be careful that you do not increase your volume too greatly that your overall win rate decreases or that you cannot pay the same level of attention to each and therefore restrict learning/understanding. Without a hud multi tabling any more than 4 (preferably 2) I would not recommend anyway as you cannot pay attention to all that is going on.

Another thing to pay attention too is what stages each tournament is at, as playing style changes throughout the tournament and also in relation to stack size. I have often made mistaken plays at a table because my mind frame was in that of the other tables, if that makes sense (eg. having a push fold style due to stage and stack size at 3 of 4 tables and being deep stacked in another)
 
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Start with adding one more table until you are comfortable if you just opened up 4 right from the start you will lose most likely it is really hard Ive been doing it for a few yrs now and i can do 4 but still has downsides as you cant get good reads on opponents even with huds people use them to much as a crutch
and if you are a live player there is no hud for you.... but my advice is just open up one more screen until you keep palcing money on both and are steady with it then open another and keep it going sometimes i have a bunch going i will do 3 tounreys and 2 cash games going only problem is when u get good hands on more than 2 then becomes a little hecktick....
 
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That is good advice, but also I haven't developed quick decision making, and I like to take my time when making a decision because I go through many things in my head and try to make the best best decision. Is multi-tabling for me? Is it possible to learn to make decisions really quickly or this is something that you learn by plying hundereds of hands (experience)?
 
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well depends on how fast u can respond becuase u do have quite a bit of time if u use in setting the auto extar timer depending on site u may have a few mins on each hand that should be plenty of enough time to think i honestly dont spend enough time on making bets becuase i play alot on cafrino where u might only have 8s if that to react so u should just try 2 and do it on freerolls at first that way u can find out the easy way and cheap way
 
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well depends on how fast u can respond becuase u do have quite a bit of time if u use in setting the auto extar timer depending on site u may have a few mins on each hand that should be plenty of enough time to think i honestly dont spend enough time on making bets becuase i play alot on cafrino where u might only have 8s if that to react so u should just try 2 and do it on freerolls at first that way u can find out the easy way and cheap way

Practicing with freerolls is a good way to find out if you can manage 2 or 3 games at a time with no risk involved.
 
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I am comfortably playing 4 tables. Im not using HUD either.

Agree, it somehow fast track your knowledge if you play multitable. You can see similar pattern plays.
 
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i agree with trying multi tables with freerolls (or 1 cash and freeroll to not get bored)(or even play a few supermicro stts)
only add 1 table at a time til youre comfy
it gets easier:)
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agree too, the worst thing we do is play more than one tourney in the same time, i play only one, it's more important see the players than the cards
 
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I agree that playing one at a time is best for maximizing your learning and win rate. Playing more than one takes your focus away from the game and you get distracted. People who do play more than one at a time are easy to spot and easy to take advantage of because you know they have no reads on you, but you have a great read on them! You know if they are playing reckless or cautious, you know what kind of hands they are playing and their betting habits. You can use this info to rob a lot of chips from them because a lot of players do it.
The same isn't true for cash games. I like to play 2 tables at cash games because (usually 6 player tables) because it is the same people for long periods of time, instead of tournaments where the players are coming and going. You have time to learn your opponents very well and you can get away with two tables (or more for some people). The best way to learn is experience, but to be the best player you can be you really need to develop your reading skills and you cannot do that by playing multiple tournaments at a time. I honestly do not think you learn more that way. You may learn to play a more straight forward game that is successful that way, but when it comes to late stages (when strategy is EVERYTHING), you will be behind a lot of the competition. The people who can do it successfully are rare (and my hat is off to them).
 
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Okk okk , I want to start 2 regular mtt at a time, I guess they should start in the same time, so I am aware of the current stage of both tournaments, right ?
 
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well, the problem often is that many people only play very good hands. Which significantly reduces the number of played thee hands and viewed flop. I for example love to play not only on them. Let's say you come to the hand 4-8 worms and your opponent has A-K, he raises and you abrasives this card without seeing the flop. At the same time he calls and the flop gives 5-6-7 and your 4-8 would be a good addition, especially if the turn and river give him two AA or KK he will Custonaci a lot of confidence and raise to the last. So I'm trying to always see the flop even if opponent's raise size is 4-5 BB. Of course the flop doesn't always gives you a monster hand but it happens pretty often.
 
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If you enjoy writing down notes, chatting, and getting to read the table but want to see more hands then I would stick to 3 max. I think 2 tables is good enough but if another tournament opportunity pops up, then go for 3.
 
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you can easy play 3 tournaments in the same time and observe your opponents and the big pots
its better for you.you ll play more hands this way and get more experience
 
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you can easy play 3 tournaments in the same time and observe your opponents and the big pots
its better for you.you ll play more hands this way and get more experience

Playing in three tournaments at the same time as you would not fail to observe all players and study them. you don't have 6 eyes, two on the table correctly and moments when you need to make an action on one table distract from the action your opponents on other tables. You can learn to play 2-4 tables but with lower buy ins but it's just learning to play for myself but no matter how to learn to study your opponent.
 
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I don't think it is something that will actually improve your development, but it is part of normal development of online players to eventually multitable. Start playing 2 at a time, you can still take notes, and will have plenty of time to observe hands that you aren't involved in. As long as you have a strong grasp on the game, nothing will change for you, except you will find yourself engaged with the game more often instead of patiently observing.

Occasionally you will find yourself involved in a pot at both tables at once and making tough decisions. Just do not become overwhelmed or make snap decisions because you feel rushed. Use your time bank if needed. You'll find that it is easier than you think. If you can handle 2 tables comfortably chances are you can eventually handle 4.
 
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