Late stages shove calling

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I've been searching for a calling chart for a while but can't find anything decent. There are lots of preflop shoving charts but not much on preflop calling.

I'm fine with my shoving ranges but feel like I'm calling shoves too wide.

I'm looking for something separated by stack to BB ratios and facing first in / overshoves.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance.
 
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Pm you a link
 
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this too could be useful :)
 

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Thanks guys. Lots of great info but I still cant find a chart for calling a shove in front of you in the very late stages of a MTT .

Lab man sent me a chart that covered shoves over limps/3 bets in front of you which covers part of it. There has to be a different calling range vs a simple open shove (low bb stack) ahead of you?
 
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Thanks guys. Lots of great info but I still cant find a chart for calling a shove in front of you in the very late stages of a MTT .

Lab man sent me a chart that covered shoves over limps/3 bets in front of you which covers part of it. There has to be a different calling range vs a simple open shove (low bb stack) ahead of you?

Well i'd say that the ranges could be pretty much those covered in the file i attached. Then, knowing approximately with what range the aggressor shoves, you could figure out if you could beat him or not or if it is +EV to make the call or fold.

For example: two players limped in (they have 15 and 30 bb). it is folded to the small blind, who has 8 bb left and he shoves. (approx. this is his shoving range: 22+ Jx+ T2s+ T3o+ 92s+ 95o+ 82s+ 85o+ 73s+ 75o+ 63s+ 65o 52s+ 43s). If you got Ax, Kx, Qx or any pocket pair, you pretty much got him covered. But i guess the big question is: if you're the one with 15 bb, do you call with Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx? If you're the one with 30 bb, do you fold Ax, Kx, Qx? :)
 
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From my opion there really can't be a shoving chart for this as everyone can be shoving with different ranges from different positions sometimes I shove 89s on the CO and if I pick up AA's I would do the same thing.... You should pay close attention to your oppenents and I think it would help your calling ranges
 
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If there are preflop shoving charts, then its easy to have preflop calling charts. Just add one notch level to it.

For example: If its good to shove AQ preflop, then its good to call that shove with AK. AQ/AJ holdings would be a flip decision.

For short, if you have preflop shoving criteria, then just add one step higher for your preflop calling criteria.

Goodluck...
 
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