LAG vs TAG In the pros

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I have been watching a lot of high rollers and professional poker matches and notice many of them loosening up their ranges and playing more agressive. Do you think the LAG play style is the play style of the future or is it just because all the pros are already such good TAGs the pros are adjusting?
 
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if in pros- on my opinion lag the speed of the tournament turbo but TAG if speed regular or deep stack. and style of game depends on the stage of the tournament.))
 
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You shouldn't have a "Default" style once you get skilled.

You should CONSTANTLY reassessing your image/opponents/status in the MTT, and adjusting your opening ranges in response to these and other factors.
 
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Obviously that was the point I'm saying in professional poker more players are adjusting their play to a more loose style and was wondering if u think that trend will continue. It's not an argument for which ones better u have to alter your games to your opponent blind structure and payouts I was just saying in professional poker nearly all the pros have adjusted to a looser game even if you watch the last high roller even you'll see Phil hellmuth jr a long with the likes of others raising and 3 betting with nothing which is uncommon in most stakes up to that level
 
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Obviously that was the point I'm saying in professional poker more players are adjusting their play to a more loose style and was wondering if u think that trend will continue. It's not an argument for which ones better u have to alter your games to your opponent blind structure and payouts I was just saying in professional poker nearly all the pros have adjusted to a looser game even if you watch the last high roller even you'll see Phil hellmuth jr a long with the likes of others raising and 3 betting with nothing which is uncommon in most stakes up to that level
I think what A2345Razz means is that you constantly have to change your type of playing on a short term basis, like a few hand or even one hand at a time having a different approach. What you are talking about is long term, which trends will develop over the long term (something which is constantly changing too).
It might be that you are watching those pro's playing like that and when you see them playing tomorrow, their game might look like it's from a completely different person. It's the best way of taking away the possibility for the opponents to have a read on you.
Now, in the long term a general trend will also develop for sure, the poker from now is not the same as it was 10 years ago. That's why books get outdated and even the top pro's, who know exactly how to play and beat this game, will have to keep studying the matter. If you look to the way of playing 10 years ago, you will see quite a lot of LAG stuff with the pro's too (maybe not so much with Phil Hellmuth, but he might be adjusting to today's game.
 
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Professional poker players are good at playing the opponent and obviously great on all streets. They aren't so worried about starting hands as much as tight players are. I think starting hands can be overrated just a tad, because you can easily be good at poker playing hands like 35s and so on if you know what you are doing. If you watch negreanus style he is all about the opponent and flop play, he isn't concerned about "waiting" for premiums, in a tournament because you don't have time to wait for good cards ALL the time.
Daniel practically plays every hand from the button because he knows how to outplay his opponents
 
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It should depends a lot on table dynamic,stacks and tournament phases.
 
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i wonder what do you understand as "profesional", there are some people that can play tournaments whit high buy-in just because they have enough money to play. i have watched terrible mistakes of "profesional players" even in events like wsop.
 
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Yeah that all is a good point and I agree poker gambler I have read a few of negraneu's books and his theory on the game is very interesting and works well against a variety of better players that are not incredibly loose. I would define a professional as someone who is profitable playing high buyins generally using poker as their main source of employment and making over 60,000 a year from it. But yeah I was just saying it seems as if kind of a new leaning trend towards a looser game in general not just in adjustments to opponents just overall.
 
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Yeah that all is a good point and I agree poker gambler I have read a few of negraneu's books and his theory on the game is very interesting and works well against a variety of better players that are not incredibly loose. I would define a professional as someone who is profitable playing high buyins generally using poker as their main source of employment and making over 60,000 a year from it. But yeah I was just saying it seems as if kind of a new leaning trend towards a looser game in general not just in adjustments to opponents just overall.
By definition a professional is someone that plays poker as a profession. So if someone makes a living from this, he becomes a professional. In some countries, someone might be living with a few hundred dollars as an income from poker, and be able to sustain a living, in other places it might be closer to the 60k you talk about, but both are professional players.
 
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no lag! no tag! my style donked if I get advantage, I often play monkey style if I wish get to back loosed stack...
 
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