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imagine you label a opponent that you meet frequently in different tables,

imagine you have a good brief about his game, not only VPIP or %CBet etc, but notes that you take when watching him playing,

have you ever noticed a change in the way a specific opponent plays a hand having the same hole cards in a similar spot?

last night i faced a labeled opponent, he was holding kings, we were in the first rounds of a mtt and stacks were around 3000, give it or take it, for almost evey player, again he was in a MP position and just 2 limpers before him,

at this point i thought: ¨he is going to raise to around 400 chips" similar to his game with monster hands and more than limper, but not this time, he just shoved, different move for similar spot, nice and tougher to believe in notes this time
 
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if you have a labelled player, you should be changing notes on him often. when i labelled players it was usually just using colour coding, to label them regs or fish or tight or whatever. specific reads i made we're usually done away from the table and only on other regs who i wanted to get an edge over.

i used my hud and set it up so that it viewed hands that specific player played in where the hand went to showdown, to get a grip on the way he approached the game, not so much what he did in specific spots.

if you can get yourself in someones head and work out what he might be thinking, or the way he approaches the game, then you pretty much have him dead.

but yeah players will change the way they play, the spot could have been similar, or there could be other factors. post both hands if you can so we can have a look.

With good players, they might play a hand one way in a spot vs a good player different when they are up against a bad one.

so yeah, try to focus more on their overall game plan, rather than how they play specific hands in specific spots, putting notes like the one you mention there kind of puts your blinkers up to whats actually happening.

since you have vpip and such, you can configure your filters to review hands villian played in. watching those hands, and filtering his stats down to see how often he plays in blinds, if he is positionally aware will give you ideas of how he might play.
 
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I've run into this problem too.

I struggle with the best way to record info about my opponents.

I do use a color coding system (could somebody please describe THEIR color coding system?)

I also make a brief label light "LAG" or "TAG" or "calling station"

but then I try to record specific details that don't just stick with a label.

such as "pot sized river bet was a bluff. river shove was for value"

chases draws with bad odds, then bets out when he hits his draw
 
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each player tries to give variants to their game that tends to make different movements, waiting for the different reactions of its rivals, with the same cards
 
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As the book says, you have to change your moves every now and then to confuse your opponents.
 
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