re: Poker & KK w/ 8 callers
OK so here was the thought process behind what I did and outcome .
Right after my WTF moment and then the you gotta be kidding me.
My next thought was I hope an A drops on the flop so I can get the hell outta here.
I did not see it as a very dry board at all for a few reasons.
Mainly, I HAD 8 callers!!!!
1. I really wasn't thinking PP of the 2's 4's 7's just bc as left52side pointed out that that doesn't make sense really from the early guys. The later guys maybe but I really did not think so considering there early play.
2.Obviously way too many people play A rag so I am thinking A3 A5 have gutshots and that would not be out of the realm of possibilty
3. Here was my biggest concern, which noone has mentioned in their posts. The late callers having the OES draws w 5/6. It would make complete sense for the later guys to have it. I know I would be calling with connetors if I had 5, 6, or 7 callers in from of me. the impied odds would be huge if you hit hard and you had position.
This was probably my BIGGEST concern
So I thought about what to do:
1. Check- NO, I really do not want the chance of giving a free card to anyone if checked around (which had been done on numerous hands previous to this). Then maybe flat or check-raise if any action.
2. bet 2k. NO-leaves them the odds to stick around with practically any type of draw outside of flush and I have no idea where I am at.
3. bet 4k this was my initial thought but was concerned if I get one caller on the early side with a draw or mid PP, it may invite others in with longer shot gutters bc u know the guys with Ax would stick around. then what. free cards.
4. Pot size. this was really what I thought would be the best option to take out the draws. However, with this I was thinking I would be pot committed. If I get one/two callers and the turn is a blank. then what.
5. SHOVE- well bc of the last thought of being pot committed, At least this would save me the anguish of getting sucked out bc of the numerous possible ranges of hands that could be out there.
The Decision- SHOVE. Yes, after the SB checked I shoved. after all that thought I shipped it.
Well, after 3 folds, the big stack sits there and thinks for a bit. CALLS. everyone else folds.
I actually thought I was good bc he had played so many Ax the whole day that he would either have the A with a 2, 4, 7 but really thinking he was on a draw. w A3 or A5 or the big concern of 5/6.
But instead, he puts the dagger in me when he flips 44 for the set.
turn 8, river J
I actually heard some one mumble when I walked away that they had 5/6 and woulda had the straight.
So, What does everyone think now. I know many of you will think I am an idiot but oh well. live and learn! I still think I should shove but also think that a check and a flat might have been the best option but that still would have left me open to so much.
Thanks for all of the replies so far. and sorry for the long winded answer but feel details are important.
Always remember: "20/20" is the only hand you don't get dealt at the table.