KING KONG STRATEGY !!!

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Cowboys, King Kong, Kangaroos are nicknames for KK. This hand is often called Ace Magnets by pessimistic expressing the fear that an ace will appear.
Although it is the second hand in value, you should pay attention to this hand. Mere presence of an ace must put you in guard because you have your hand canceled by a bigger pair. The presence of an Ace can also scare you, someone trying to bluff you.
The probability that an Ace to appear in the flop is almost 20% so it’s very important to raise pre-flop. The purpose is to eliminate poor hands that may become strong and to increase the pot. Your raise should be large enough to scare weak hands and enough to find out the strength of your opponent’s hand.
There are 2 particular cases:
1.A flop without an Ace
This is a good situation, but you should be careful. You should continue to bet in a manner that will allow you to extract as much as possible from your opponents and to remove the weak hands. You don’t want to give to someone the opportunity to make two pairs, for example so you have to start playing some aggressive poker. We don’t recommend slow-play in this situation.
2.A flop with an Ace
This is an undesirable situation, but the situation may be moving in your favor: if you’re in early position make a small bet to find out who is holding an Ace (the one who has in hand an Ace will re-raise you) so you can fold. By betting you can also scare the opponents and take the pot. If you are in middle or late position and someone place a small bet you can call, but if he’s making a big bet you should fold.
As a general rule, you have to play this hand aggressively and you must know when to fold. Many beginners over estimate the KK and when it’s obvious the opponent has two Aces they don’t fold.:joyman:
 
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Cowboys, King Kong, Kangaroos are nicknames for KK. This hand is often called Ace Magnets by pessimistic expressing the fear that an ace will appear.
Although it is the second hand in value, you should pay attention to this hand. Mere presence of an ace must put you in guard because you have your hand canceled by a bigger pair. The presence of an Ace can also scare you, someone trying to bluff you.
The probability that an Ace to appear in the flop is almost 20% so it’s very important to raise pre-flop. The purpose is to eliminate poor hands that may become strong and to increase the pot. Your raise should be large enough to scare weak hands and enough to find out the strength of your opponent’s hand.
There are 2 particular cases:
1.A flop without an Ace
This is a good situation, but you should be careful. You should continue to bet in a manner that will allow you to extract as much as possible from your opponents and to remove the weak hands. You don’t want to give to someone the opportunity to make two pairs, for example so you have to start playing some aggressive poker. We don’t recommend slow-play in this situation.
2.A flop with an Ace
This is an undesirable situation, but the situation may be moving in your favor: if you’re in early position make a small bet to find out who is holding an Ace (the one who has in hand an Ace will re-raise you) so you can fold. By betting you can also scare the opponents and take the pot. If you are in middle or late position and someone place a small bet you can call, but if he’s making a big bet you should fold.
As a general rule, you have to play this hand aggressively and you must know when to fold. Many beginners over estimate the KK and when it’s obvious the opponent has two Aces they don’t fold.:joyman:

Thanks for the tips about KK...I won once yesterday with KK...I immediately raised & then swept in for the kill. I've also lost KK about 3 times now to an A that came in a flop! Now, I'm much more cautious with both KK & AA...knowing, that though they are the strongest pairs, they are still ONLY pairs!:D
 
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no ace on the board, when u bet, some one raise big stacks.
how r u going to play KK's??
 
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kk are a all in hand for me everytime i know its a killer of a pop out on the board but there still a good hand thanks for the tip
 
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I don't agree with your reasoning. For one I raise with KK because it's likely the best hand and want to increase the size of the pot that I'm likely to win. I don't want to fold out weaker hands but would rather them call me. If there's no ace on the flop great. I bet and hope someone either paired a hole card or has some sort of draw. As far as catching 2pr(or trips) there are only 5 possibilities of this so I don't worry about that so much. Still I don't want to give free cards and also can't give draws the right odds to chase. Again I want them to chase but for the wrong price to do so. I want them to make a mistake and don't want to bet so much they can easily make the right move and fold. As for when an ace flops this can be a tricky spot. In these spots either your way ahead or way behind and I tend to check/call these hands. I figure if I bet I'm really only being called by a better hand and hands I beat will most likely fold. I find if I check the villain will often bluff with hands he would of folded if I bet.
 
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The most important skill to playing kings is the ability to fold on the flop.

You have to raise pre-flop, big. I don't believe you're testing your opponent's strength, they'll call you with a lot more than they should (pocket tens show up a lot, AT, KQ and KJ all appear from time to time), but you are at least defining a range for your opponent.

If the flop hits JJ3, you're probably good but you're going to be aware that the J is very much within their range. Also, if the flop comes QJT, you're going to be thinking about AK, and a possible set, maybe even 89s, part of the reason I raise big pre-flop is to get rid of those ace crackers 78s and 89s, but people treat them like gold even if they don't have the implied odds to play them.

The main thorn in your side is going to be that lone ace on the flop, a set or two pair. By raising pre-flop you'll know when two pair is a real threat. The flop comes 689, if you get put to a decision there's a fair chance you should fold here. More often than not you're ahead on that flop, but if your opponent gets excited about it you may be in trouble.

Sets, typically I trust that my pre-flop raise was enough to get rid of any pocket pair lower than sixes or sevens, so it's the high cards that trouble me. Always consider anything 7 or higher could have made someone's set.

That lone ace remains a problem that I don't know how to deal with, I fall back on routine and represent the ace, I only do this against opponents who'll believe it though. Keep in mind that anyone who puts you on a big pair can take the pot from you here even if they've got pocket 3's, if they know you've got a pocket pair then they know you're scared of the ace. Sometimes it's still best to lead out, sometimes it's not though, you've got to play that one on feel.
More often than not you'll take down the pot with a bet on the flop, even with the ace out there, but if your opponent plays back at you, usually you should fold.
Now, the ace on the turn is another problem altogether, usually holding kings you're terrified of any ace you see, but the ace on the turn usually hasn't hit them. There are only two hands that it hits (assuming you bet the flop), one is an ace high flush draw and the other is when someone has something like AQ and hit the queen for top pair on the flop.


Like I said at the start of this response, the main skill to kings is being able to fold them. They'll win you a lot of money, but you've got to be able to get away from them when your opponent flops something bigger. Even when you've got the overpair on the flop, don't assume it's good.

I always play my kings fast, let my opponents make loose calls. It's easy to get outdrawn and not know it, bet a lot and bet hard. Rarely flat call, either raise or fold.
 
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Raise big pf to get the pot size up and shake off the drawing hands. CB the flop even if there is an Ace just to get a feel for what your opponent might have. If they play back representing the Ace tread lightly. If you don't raise preflop you will be playing against too many opponents. With these big hands I think you only want one or possibly two other people in the pot. Otherwise your odds go way down.
 
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