JJ & QQ Preflop

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Hi everybody.

Im having problems with these 2 hands preflop. Lets say everyone at the table have 20-30 bbs and plays relatively tight (No fancy opponents).

I raise 2.5x utg+1 and MP 3-bets. Would you just assume his range Would be AJ+, KK+, and call or Would you shove All in after Villian 3-bets?
- We have 19 bbs left after the raise.

Im a bit confused how short stacked we should be before shove All in to Any 3-bet from the opponent.

If Any of you Would reshove to the raise, can you please explain how deep we should be to just call it off to setmine.
 
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Depends if you wanna gamble or not I would just call see how the flop comes and make a decision then! I normally say screw it and try and gamble thou Js and Qs are great hands!
 
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Really depends on your oppenent, and how your play has been sofar. If you've opened/folded a few times you could maybe push. I probably wouldn't unless I had 10bb/less behind me. I'd call it down, maybe no over cards hit or you get lucky with a set.
 
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unless the player who 3 bets is a very tight player i wouldnt assume villain has a better hand than mine. of course kings or aces are a possibilty, however villain 3 bet range can be very wide especially if he is a loose player so in most cases i would shove all in or just call if i have position over villain and he is a tight player.
 
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Hi everybody.

Im having problems with these 2 hands preflop. Lets say everyone at the table have 20-30 bbs and plays relatively tight (No fancy opponents).

I raise 2.5x utg+1 and MP 3-bets. Would you just assume his range Would be AJ+, KK+, and call or Would you shove All in after Villian 3-bets?
- We have 19 bbs left after the raise.

Im a bit confused how short stacked we should be before shove All in to Any 3-bet from the opponent.

If Any of you Would reshove to the raise, can you please explain how deep we should be to just call it off to setmine.
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If you raised with 20-30bb from UTG and someone 3betting you (10BB+) it means that your opponent is willing to play for stacks. So if you doing raise from UTG and get a 3bet, i think opponent have only AK, QQ KK, AA and not worse. Or he very big fish. ^_^
 
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QQ is a borderline super premium pocket hand. You will sometimes feel tempted to shove all of the money in pre-flop, while other times you will want to simply lay it down. Queens are very susceptible to being beaten, despite the fact that they crush almost every hand in the deck. Aside from KK and AA which will leave QQ drawing super thing, AK will also be tossing a coin with pocket queens. Unless you are comfortable with a lot of variance, getting queens all in pre-flop will set you on a shaky ride. There isn’t a lot of doubt that moving all in pre-flop with queens is profitable in many online games, it’s simply that you will need to suck out a fair amount, force a number of folds, and occasionally be way ahead when the money goes in the middle.JJ is only one notch below QQ on the scale of hand rankings, but sometimes it seems like they are a world apart. Some people play pocket jacks as if their only value can be derived from hitting a set or catching a bluff. While it is true that it is difficult to dodge the entire board when you have a lone pair of jacks, there will be plenty of times where they wind up taking down the pot. One thing you need to realize about pocket jacks is that they are a profitable hand, just not a wildly profitable hand. In other words, where you could win an entire stack pre-flop with kings or aces, this just isn’t the case with pocket jacks. Even as you progress onto the flop, jacks will continuously run into trouble. If you can pick your spots effectively, you will be much better off.
 
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base on the range you gave JJ is a flip 50.77 vs 49,23 and QQ is a winner 57.3 vs 42.68.
That being said I would try to adjust for opp. If you say that your opp is nit/tag you bet of 2.5-3bb is fine, енру game will resolve any way post flop you should be weary of reraises and any over cards. If your op is lose you should raise more to defend so his weak dro hands вте get value.
To add 20-30BB is deep enought there is not need to gable with JJ/QQ. Shoving PRF is aa matter of ~10bbs or super deep in the tourney when you M is low. But if you are running frist 10-20 mins in a slow tourney you can get knocked out easy with Ax.
 
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Hello, i just started learn poker strategy and reading books, so atm with JJ or QQ at early steps I normally doing 3-bet and then see flop:) If flop without K or A, im raising more :)
 
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My opinion is that it is better to open the flop. From a set or AA KK in low-flop, we certainly did not go away, but if you will A, K, paired jacks or tens, then your opponent bet should be reset. And of course your opponent's image will play an important role.
 
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You have to observe the table, if a extremely-tight player raised, is better think two times before raise allin/reraise.
 
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Depends on opponent and feel. I prefer to just call and see the flop. Just because an ace or king hits doesn't automatically indicate a fold either. He could just as well raise with 6s-10s to try and limit the number of players in the pot.
 
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