JJ in early position

So, i was UTG+1 and I mini-raise with JJ and BB 3-bet after 2 players pay my raise. What your decision here? Fold. Raise All in or just Call?

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I think you played well.
think about what the BB's range probably is, knowing he RR with 1 raise, and 2 raised limps.

Preflop I'd say: AA, KK, QQ, AK(s), AQ(s).
Postflop I'd add: 77, but it wouldn't make much sense given the preflop play. So probably scrap that. I would take out KK and QQ.

Now there's a chance he just wanted the pot. But that's really risky, and I assume you don't get a big stack playing really recklessly.

The subject of how to play the deadly hooks is talked about more than a lot. But I haven't found an answer that can be used most of the time when we catch them. It's kind of like a guessing game to play them. I'm like OH SHIT WHAT TO DO NOW when I catch them. I really hate the hand unless it's one of those times when a Jack is in the flop, and I love playing them for all I can get out of them. Kind of a pay back. But there really isn't a way to play that hand because every time you catch them, it's all a different situation. But that goes for any hand. There is a lot of thinking going on while playing this crazy game. I know that's not much help but it's all I have to give. GL to you

JJ is a very good hand but in the UTG + 1 position we should proceed with caution.

It would be a good pre flop raise but if we see AKQ on the flop we should be aware that our hand will fold without thinking about the turn or the river.

I also know that it is not easy to throw JJ

Your game was very successful the only thing I do not share is the pre flop raise. I would throw more to check to see the flop at a low price and not involve my stack.

Supmargy said:

I think you played well.
think about what the BB's range probably is, knowing he RR with 1 raise, and 2 raised limps.

Preflop I'd say: AA, KK, QQ, AK(s), AQ(s).
Postflop I'd add: 77, but it wouldn't make much sense given the preflop play. So probably scrap that. I would take out KK and QQ.

Now there's a chance he just wanted the pot. But that's really risky, and I assume you don't get a big stack playing really recklessly.

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You say that call to squeeze was played well and than You said that his oponent range preflop is QQ+, AQs+... You denied yourself
This range killing JJ so he should fold JJ immediatelly against this raise

Easy call if you would have had bigger stack, for three of a king. But BB wants your 1/4 stack. I don't think he bluffs or has hand worse than AK, QQ+ after your raise from EP, and being out of position. And you have 2 opponents behind that may shove, after what you must fold. Therefore fold here and wait for better chance.

Edson said:

You say that call to squeeze was played well and than You said that his oponent range preflop is QQ+, AQs+... You denied yourself
This range killing JJ so he should fold JJ immediatelly against this raise

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Yeah good point. I didn't think about it this way.
Now that being said, the chance of him getting AK or AQ is a lot higher than getting QQ+. So that'd be an argument to call.

But I think overall my logic was flawed indeed.

Playin JJ pre flop

I agree with most on this subject.... I even thought about not playing JJ, ever again. Seems that every time that I play JJ, in any position, I lose the hand. And JJ looks so good!
GL at the tables....

I think it's played normally.

I think, that you had to bet 3-4 BB on preflop to reduce the number of opponents on the flop. From an early position, I would not call 3-bet with pocket JJ.
In general, you made the correct fold (if consider, that the opponent made bets taking into account the strength of his hand).

Fold and wait for a better chance.

Hi you did a very good fold because assuming that the big blind, had an A Q or A K is 60% sure that he had a hand of these to have bet so.

I totally agree, I feel like theres been more timea Ive involved myself in large pots with JJ and soon had to fold after flop or turn. Although when I just call the BB, the decision making on the flop is so much easier.

He didnt show the hand and I try to catch some information from him but he didnt say anything. I presume since I was paying he had something like AK or AA to do that.

But the other villain said he had A2, so it is more hard to he had AA, then AK

I mean he could have pair of 10s
Anyway, thank you everyone for answering me !

I always make solid bet ..If i got raise i would pay 1vs1 ..if I got raise and 3bet i would often also call in 3 handed pot.but if I have some actions like raise.3bets allin multiway I would often choose fold but as you know..sometimes you have to risk..I put sometimes gambling in my game..it is impossible to win tournament if you play just the best preflop hands..As you already saw..you can miss AQ,AK 4 times in a row and destroy your stack

Well this definitely reraise fold need !!!! he made it clear that he had top pair AA KK QQ , otherwise he would not have twisted so , clear fold

In this situation i would fold, except i had some info about player eg. If he is loos agresive then will call

It depends on the situation I am in at the moment, if I am in the initial phase of a tournament my bet would be 3-bet, and if some villain raises the bet after me I would equalize until I see the flop, but if we are In the final phase of a tournament and the rank of the BB is very high and I am short of chips my bet would be all in

If it's me in this hand at the start of the tournament, I'm going to All In!
At the final tables 4.5 BB if my stack is above average, if I am below I will go All-In!

Just call and see what will happen but I would never go all in with JJ before I see the flop.

If your the first to enter you can limp and trap or min raise and trap....that gives you the option to fold if you must, without sacrificing too much. depending on your stack. if your playing the usual, then 3bb bet and feel the situation.

Personally (depending on what stage of the tournament it is and my gut feeling) I'm either shoving all-in or folding after the 3-bet preflop..

It'd obviously be pretty crazy continuing after the ace comes but, for better or worse, if we shove or fold pre we avoid having to make that decision.

If I'm running well it's easier to fold the JJ pre because I feel I'll get another good spot soon, if I'm not catching decent starting hands or hitting the flop I'm more inclined to shove.

It goes without saying if we shove pre we've two ways to win the pot- by inducing the fold or by show down, but when the villain shoves into us on the flop we're reduced to just one way- winning at show down..

All this aside, you made a good fold but perhaps depending on your instincts and previous information on the villain you might have been able to avoid the decision..

Keep on keeping on! [emoji1303]

P.s. Forgive the cliche but it seems to apply here - Raise more often than you call and fold more often than you raise...

in this situation probablly the villain have the strong ace.... if you back all in on pre flop he calls and you loose... nice fold

marieemce said:

So, i was UTG+1 and I mini-raise with JJ and BB 3-bet after 2 players pay my raise. What your decision here? Fold. Raise All in or just Call?

You can check it here
https://www.boomplayer.com/24385076_8886139E9E

Really want your opinions about it.

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I will do the same as you did, four cards behind me, you raise preflop and got callers with 3-bet there is one Ace most of the time in this situation or 77, hard to call with all-in. Your stack is not committed into the pot with 200/400 blinds, wait again for a better hand and better spot.

Nice fold. AK-AQs i think.. auto-shove on the flop say that no hart in his hands and hi "reject" to see turn card