re: Poker & JJ on the button...
Originally Posted by playsuji6
It means you are saying that he made a good decision by moving allin. If it is why he would lost it, and there is no use in crying that he(opp) made a bad decision or you feeling unlucky. I said to raise and you asked me to explain it, the reason for reraising is to show the very strong hand and he would definetly think about what he is holding. Allin at button posn so he may thought you would try to steal something, so he called it. Anyway i am just saying what comes to my mind and i am not saying that it was the correct one, and i dont blame anyone too...
I'm not trying to pick on anyone here, but OP is asking a serious and valid couple of questions, so I think we owe it to him to give him good advice - imo, calling and raising (to less than a shove) are both bad options.
1. Villain made an awful play to minraise w an M<9. With that stack size, he really has only two choices preflop - fold or shove. With a shove, he has some fold equity - with a minraise, he's begging to get raised by an equal sized stack, a bigger stack, or a desparate stack, and his QJ is not strong enough to call that raise. I might understand a minraise if he's holding AA, since then he'd really WANT to get shoved over (but I never like making this play myself).
2. Hero has an M<9, and is in pretty much the same boat as Villain - he has only two choices preflop, fold or shove. The minraise from Villain is pretty suspicious - it's either a monster (KK+,AK) that wants to get shoved over, or Villain is a complete and total fish (and we already know which it was). Raising to less than a shove is insane - our stack size is already too small, we'll be crippled if we simply raise and fold either pf or on the flop. Calling ain't that great either, our M already sucks, calling and then folding either pf or on the flop will drop our M even further, and we need to be willing to gamble that we're flipping against a strong A (and if we knew what his holding was, we'd take this opportunity to shove every single time it comes up, we're a 67% favorite pf), or simply fold and look for a better spot if we read the minraise as strength and don't want to gamble (like most people in this thread, I don't read it as strength, so I'm shoving).
3. Once Hero shoves, I don't think Villain has any choice but to call - but he shouldn't be in this spot in the first place, he shouldn't have minraised this holding.
So, OP's questions are:
1. Did we both make the right move? No, Villain did not, Hero did.
2. Was I too aggressive? No, standard, unless you read the minraise as strength - and even if you do, you may have to gamble here.
3. Was Villain a donk? I prefer the term "fish", but you say "toe-may-toe", I say "toe-mah-toe", same diff - yes.